I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn't see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed

edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn't realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community's rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual

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[–] 51 points 1 year ago* (141 children)

That a scummy move from the mod. I made a new community where both siding occupation and genocide comments get removed !apologiafreenews@lemmy.world

The two mods are too very known genocide supporters so no surprise here.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (75 children)

    Oh of course it's another goat comm

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (38 children)

    Goat from ShitJustWorks, someone who is "highly interested in extremism" to use their own words. MeanwhileOnGrad is their main claim to fame here, which is an attempt to document the things Tankies talk about.

    It has been a host to users using Nazi dog whistles. Goat was on Voat, the Nazi clone of reddit made when Reddit banned some alt-rignt community, and got banned from it twice.

    Also tried to force guro (gore art for sexual stimulation/pleasure) onto some communities.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    I didn't do this, I gave the community up months ago

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Which is definitely obvious when still the top mod in said comm.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

    Which two? There's three mods on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works

    Also I'd recommend the following comms as being pretty good:

    I don't fully promise they're good as I don't usually track this stuff super closely

    /edit/: added the quokk.au community since people here seem to like it

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Just from an outside perspective:

    you're playing the same game die a different side. What kind of consistent ruleset warrants a delete and ban for this?

    Power tripping for the right cause is still a powertrip.

    Edit: I just realize that just leaving it like this reads purely confrontational which was not my original inten:

    You can do better! If you want to have this kind of moderation that is actually fine in my book: as long as it's transparent and consistent.

    The exact rule must depend on the answer to what kind of community you want to build. Openly progressive vs openly debating vs aggressively neutral for example.

    I know you can do it, because anyone who has the energy to take on this endeavor has the potential to grow ❤️.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because anything can be framed negative and without transparency about your personal ruleset on what those empty words mean it's just Fox News brabble.

    It's not about tolerating intolerance, not at all. It's about transparent consistency. That's what preventing the powertrip: rules that you create AND THEN OBEY. Doesn't matter what those rules are. But if you're definition of occupation suddenly matches Medicaid I'd the mrdown fan club then you need to support people discussing it.

    That's the whole difference.

    Btw your sentence a bit changed is what the trump goons actually use at the moment: "why should anyone tolerate criminals?". And those fuckers just declared anything they don't like "illegal".

    That's what I'm asking: that everyone has the space to grow. That's why I recommend you to create transparent rules that you obey yourself: to not become like those shitheads. Because they are full of people absolutely sure if themselves with no way to reflect, no way to think.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Let me get this straight. Do you want a news community where nobody can criticise the DNC for the terrible policy decisions that lost them the last election, and which they seem determined to carry through into the next election? I mean, have any Democrats have even admitted Israel is committing genocide in Gaza yet? The official party line continues to be full throated support for Zionism from both sides of the aisle.

    If you're planning to go down that road you should just call it DNC/Hasbara approved news or something, so folks know what they are getting.

    There's a reason leftists don't bang on about Trump all the time. It's because he's a lost cause. He's a literal fascist. Nobody on Lemmy needs convincing Trump is the worst US President in history. Imo convincing Dems they should lurch left instead of right (for once) could help win them the next election. But they just don't want to listen, don't want to change, and seem intent on ontracising the left instead of taking on board perfectly legitimate criticisms of the party's leadership and policies.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    Oh you’re that nutcase raging we didn’t ban someone for having an opinion you didn’t like? You literally claimed their post was a crime against humanity…

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I'm gonna side with the other guy here. You know we can see the modlog right? All I gotta say is wow.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It shows you generally being a dick to people you disagree with. One line even said "scums like you should be iced."

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Escalating when someone slights you can certainly have no parallels to current events, no sir.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    Oh what a shock, it's Goat, the known tolerator of Nazis until they get called out on it too often.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Wild but unsurprising goat only cares about clearing their good name over how shitty the only other mod is

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    And then say us documenting their actions (that they then go back and edit) are the real liars.

    Screenshot Goat, they'll remove their posts to make you seem like you lied.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I will wait for you to remove the other pro genocide mod for that community

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Look, I don't know anything about you, and I'm not the person who said that, new to the thread, but you said you wanted to remain head moderator in case of mod abuse. We're seeing mod abuse. It's time to kick the other one out. Refusal after being made aware of this is approval if you want to remain head moderator to remove other mods for mod abuse.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    i think i maybe don't understand your stance. you're remaining mod there to prevent mod abuse, have asked that this mod update the rules, and if they won't, you're going to let them run rampant? what does this accomplish? why not just resign either way since that's the path you most want to follow.

    not trying to criticize, i just… am very confused

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am still confused on what your position is. So you were saying you were leaving this comm to the other mod, that you were staying to keep them accountable, that you would resign if they didn't respond to your response to hold them accountable, and now that you can't resign at all. I'm... I'm very confused. It seems like you should elevate this to the admins, I guess?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago
    • Stays to help with mod abuse
    • Openly says they don't know anything about the mod they appointed
    • Doesn't bother fixing anything here
    • Wonders why people think they have any responsibility, when they said they appointed this person and stayed to manage mod abuse
    • Wants the OP's post removed because people said this was faulty reasoning
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