Family and neighbors have told media outlets Maria had a restraining order against him because he allegedly had been harassing her. Her uncle posted a statement on Facebook that the driver had allegedly followed his niece to her home for months and the police were notified, but nothing was done.


Other articles have indicated that he later live-streamed a statement about the murders on his gaming stream with tens of thousands of followers. He reportedly made comments about one of the girls on his livestream, targeting her for making disrespectful comments about Charlie Kirk.

The alleged killer is the son of a police officer and related to a local police chief, which some have claimed contributed to the lack of police action against his months long stalking.

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[+] -27 points 1 year ago (29 children)

One reason why these people are on the street is because people are too soft on mental issues and think that people don’t deserve life in prison just because they are young.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Noooooo, what you're saying is to make the prison owners (slave owners) more money while getting them young. Private prisons and mental hospitals should be abolished. There are other countries that have free mental health hospitals and prisons that aren't horrendous that are publicly owned. They're doing it right.

    One reason why these people are on the street is because people are too soft on mental issues and think that people don’t deserve life in prison just because they are young.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    There are other countries that have free mental health hospitals and prisons that aren't horrendous that are publicly owned. They're doing it right.

    Examples please. 🤦‍♂️

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    The Netherlands. Very low incarceration rates, publicly owned prisons, mental health support for all inmates, mental health checklists for reintroduction jn society. Results: low crime rates, low spending.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I love the dude coming in making baseless statements and then asks everyone else for examples.

    Google it dude, it's not a secret.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Google also shows many of those countries failing to do it, and canceling programs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Examples please. 🤦‍♂️

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Google it dude, it's not a secret.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm just messing with you now. I personally thought it was funny.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I’m just copying and pasting their comment 💋

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I know. FYI, Cuba has free healthcare.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah… I wouldn’t take Cuba’s healthcare if they paid me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    You might want to rethink that. I think their life expectancy is higher than the US.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba#Assessments

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Criticism

    The preceding study also pointed to problems within Cuba's health system, including:

    • Low pay of doctors.
    • Poor facilities—buildings in poor state of repair and mostly outdated.
    • Poor provision of equipment.
    • Frequent absence of essential drugs.
    • Concern regarding freedom of choice both for patient and doctor.

    Well, other than that last one. 😂 we have plenty of drugs!!!!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Prison is not a suitable environment for people with mental health issues anyway. It's simultaneously both a criminal issue and a health issue. They should be in a mental hospital, getting medical treatment until they are either safe to release, or indefinitely if they are not. We don't ask doctors to decide if convicts are safe to release, and we shouldn't rely solely on judges to decide when someone has a dangerous mental condition.

    While involuntary treatment is an awful thing to have to consider and historically mental institutions have been awful places, so are prisons. And if we don't like that they are awful places, we should work to make it so that people have better support for mental and parenting issues before they reach the level of becoming criminals, so that fewer people need to be sent there, and also work to make them not-so-awful places, instead of simply deciding we will never send people there, which does not solve either problem. Because there is a legitimate need for these institutions for people of all ages, when we as a society fail at preventing people from falling into these mentally unhealthy conditions without support or treatment.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Prison can mean many things. Whatever way this is, they need to be removed from the general public and placed into a location to protect us from them. I don’t think this should be with convicted criminals, but a facility properly run to provide for these people. That’s a whole other conversation though—and it doesn’t matter because it will never happen in the US. This is as good as it will ever get. It’s all down from here.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I share your pessimism, but I still think it's important to try, and to educate. Even if all we're doing is softening the fall by the tiniest amount, and maybe laying a new foundation for something better to come after it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You had me on the first part, thinking you were going to suggest we should address mental health long before it gets to this point. But then you veered off. You wouldn't need the latter if we weren't ignoring the first part.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We need more mental health care. However, part of mental health care is caring for people who would be negatively effected by people who have [blanket term issues]. That might mean denying people like this access to the rest of humanity.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm sure we can figure that part out once we start working on the bigger problem overall. Maybe there will always be a handful of people that can't be helped, but we won't know that until we help those who can be helped.

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