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This is on a facebook story about how driving faster than 50 km/hour increases the risk of pedestrians dying (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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Apparently pedestrians should take personal responsibility but not drivers

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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Both should take personal responsibilities for their actions. I had to brake more than once because some pedestrian crossed the road without looking up from his or her phone. On the other hand, someone playing around with his / her phone while driving a car should be seriously punished.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    Pedestrians always have right of way in my state, regardless of legality. They can indeed step out into a busy road and it is entirely the drivers responsibility to stop. Ensuring safety in a shared space is always heavily biased towards the person who is operating a deadly weapon, as it should be.

    If you can't be sure you wont kill a person walking, even one making irresponsible choices, you need to slow down, drive more defensively, or not drive at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Pedantry incoming: "Right of way" implies drivers have to yield to pedestrians, which isn't true — they just have to not hit them. You're still absolutely right about everything else, "right of way" is just the wrong expression. You're thinking of "duty of care".

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Interesting. In normal places, people are not taught to be irresponsible in traffic.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    No one is taught to be irresponsible in traffic.

    What is taught in normal, reasonable places, is that the person with a weapon is responsible for the damage it does. It's a very straightforward rule.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Where are you from? I guarantee you it works the same way in your city and you just don't know.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I definitely know that we even teach children not to just walk onto the road like an idiot without looking.

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