nothingcorporate comments on They had to watermark Ilhan Omar talking about ICE so right-wing streamers couldn't clip moments out of context

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today [S] 71 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This feels like an oversimplification -- let's not forget that billionaires have poured untold sums of money into funding right-wing propaganda...and that virtually every major platform is owned and operated by billionaires with right-wing agendas.

Not only did Elon Musk spend billions on Twitter to make sure only voices he like get platformed, but Youtube has a well documented history of pushing more and more radical right-wing content to users, and Donald Trump just made sure that the one online place where left-wing voices were able to dominate (TikTok) was forced to be sold to his buddy, Larry Ellison.

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[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago

I assume anybody making such wild divisive statements is a Russian troll, tread with Care

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[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

But it is really simple. It's a numbers game. Where their billions of investments fail is that they can't ever replicate what we do naturally. If we were organized and actually engaged. I would say their billions are part of the reason we all are so passive. I have no doubt they infiltrated left wing spaces and said things like "uhhh it's like wrestling pigs" and then promoting places like Lemmy. Left wing at one point did dominate these spaces but this current generation really only focuses on meeting in person twice a year in some city nobody cares about. Again, I wonder why we chose the most energy expensive methods

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[–] tehfishman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Bro what are you even talking about

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[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

If you think leftists are congregating every 6 months I suspect you have a mistaken understanding of what constitutes "the left".

That being said, I suspect you are correct to some degree regarding astroturfing in some communities. I used to see a lot of anti-semitism that was in the form of "Jewish people are all X or all do Y" and that has vaporized which makes me think it might have been an op.

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[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just been there's a new protest every six months. One issue gets dropped and a new one crops up. It's all reactionary. There's no planning or forethought. We're just chasing a pig around instead of trying to meet it at where it's headed. I think much of what the left has done in the past decade has been influenced by the right wing machine more than we're ready to admit. When you start looking between the lines I think it's clear as day.

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[–] tehfishman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will grant that the left is lacking in highly visible and effective leadership that can make specific, coordinated demands. And even that the Democrats are primarily reactionary, as the Democrats are the "face" of the left (with huge caveats about how they're actually just a second conservative party, and not even left because they go out of their way to suppress the left). Democratic party leadership is just bad at politics and afraid to act.

But the idea that the left has abandoned the digital space is at least an incomplete assessment of the situation when billionaires are allowed to buy the town square and push whatever "algorithm" tweaks they want.

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[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

The algorithm can only do so much lifting. Reality is the ability to create content and bring it to the surface to get eyeballs on it is always under our control it just takes awareness that we need to be doing that. This is why they push the opinion that you just said so hard.

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[–] tehfishman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Who is "they"? The lizard people? And no, that kind of straight line of content distribution is not under our control. I urge you to prove me wrong. I would actually love for you to make me eat my words here because I'm pretty sick of right wing media dominance and what it has done to ex friends of mine.