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[–] 9 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Google’s developer verification will only run on mainstream Android with play services. It’s not supposed won’t be running in standard AOSP so the easiest solution would be to switch to a custom ROM like GrapheneOS.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They are also working to similarly kill custom ROMs. Just recently the GrapheneOS team mentioned that Google is no longer making their hardware drivers Open Source, and so compatibility with new phones means reverse engineering their own drivers - which is a big reason that custom ROMs support such narrow hardware options already and very often come with limitations and/or features that just don't work. At best, they figure out how to make it work, but it takes time and updates can lag significantly behind.

    We have a lot of options on the software side for avoiding google (or android), but very limited options on hardware. We need open source mobile hardware support ASAP.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why do you think they're making this arbitrary change?

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    What do you think the benefit of closing sourcing their software is if not to stifle competition?

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    As someone whose job runs several FOSS projects, I think you're making up the fact that it adds meaningful workload.

    I think that, for all intents and purposes, protecting IP is equivalent to stifling competition.

    I think giving away code benefits the entire Android ecosystem, which might be the largest data mining operating Google has. I fully believe that's of nonzero benefit.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    While true, the pool of unlockable devices are dwindling fast.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    True…. I heard GrapheneOS is having trouble porting to the Pixel 10

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yes, banking apps, streaming apps, even some shopping apps. This has been a problem for a long time. Sometimes its for “security” reasons and sometimes its simply because the app uses Play Service APIs. Another issue on de-googled systems is push notifications, though that is often fixed through alternates like Unified Push

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    But remember, unlocking bootloader is harder and harder for many devices. And Google's Play Integrity and API changes makes removing trace of unlocked bootloader harder. Many apps not just banking, ChatGPT, games, some of social media is completely unusable in that scenario.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I don't have that choice in Denmark due to NemID.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    At this point the solution seems to just be having a second phone for that kinda shit

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I don't like that my neighbours are noisy, guess i should get a second house for when they're shouting

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    ah yes because phones are $400,000-$1,000,000+

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm comparing the impracticality, not the monetary impact

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    ah yes because those things are completely unrelated

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    • Carrying two massive slabs because a few apps won't run on one of them

    • Having a second home because some nights you can't sleep in one due to noisy neighbours

    Where the more simple solution would be:

    • Have a phone that can run all of the apps you need so you don't need to buy and carry around a second phone
    • deal with your neighbours and sort stuff out rather than buy and travel to and from a second home.
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