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F-Droid and Google's Developer Registration Decree | F-Droid (f-droid.org)
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[–] 33 points 1 year ago (21 children)

When Android stops working properly, I'll move back to a dumb/feature phone. My wife will hate it, but so be it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Some friends and I were talking about the feasibility of that earlier today.

    It's possible, assuming that you never need to use your phone as an MFA method, never need to scan a QR code, or never need to use an app for something because they lack a web version.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    If my employer wants me to use MFA, they can provide me the device.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is exactly what a Yubikey is for. They're phishing-resistant too, as opposed to TOTP codes.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    How about for any personal accounts?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    My personal accounts do not use MFA of any kind and very few are tied to external accounts for any form of verification.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Lucky you can get away with that. My bank requires the app, without it you can't even make transactions via the web UI because the 2FA is via their app. You can't even order a new card or many times order a physical card via their web UI because they don't bother sending you a physical thing anymore, intention being is that you add the card to Google pay for NFC and online payments and use it that way only. Everything is via the app. I actually have no idea what happens if I lose my phone, because as far as it has been made to appear my bank account is on my phone, there are no sign in details or anything of the sort, it's either there or it isn't.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If my bank ever changes to do that, I would immediately find a different bank. Then again, whenever it's possible, I do business in cash.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah good luck with that, most places have been cashless since the pandemic, and there are no banks that don't do this, they're required to have 2FA by regulatory compliance and they all implement it as apps to offset compliance costs with data harvesting.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've not had that experience. Most of the places I go to or do business with prefer cash (most even charge for cards now), and my bank doesn't do that stuff. If they do, I'll just go to an FCU instead of a bank, since most of them do most of their business in-person.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's because we live in different countries. Judging by you saying FCU, presumably meaning Fan Control Unit or United States Federal Credit Union, you live in the United States.

    I do not live in the United States. In the rest of the world, and especially Western Europe and the UK - where I live - cashless is very common if not the default.

    Again, outside of the United States (1 country), banks tend to work like how I described, so there isn't a bank that "doesn't do that stuff", and not only are most business cashless, there are even fairly common card payment machines at businesses that do not take chip and pin (or swipe, but they basically never did that, that's just an American thing), only contactless is an option.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    never need to scan a QR code

    QR wishes it can someday become as relevant as you're giving it credit for. Haha.

    There is Aegis for MFA. It's much nicer than the closed proprietary ones.

    Of course, if a job requires something incompatible, then I'll let them buy me a dedicated device.

    Some services threaten me with "there's no web version", but they never end up being someome I want to do any business with, anyway. ¯(°_o)/¯

    But I do want a dumb flip phone again. They were cool.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I hear you. My wife has also requested that I not deprecate certain proprietary apps until I can provide a good alternative that works on both Android and Apple. Last time was when we were traveling and wanted to share locations with each other in real time. I had to give WhatsApp location perms 🤮

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My wife will hate it, but so be it.

    Pretty sure you can build and self-host an SMS-whatever-she-is-using (e.g. Signal, DeltaChat, etc) bridge if somehow SMS isn't enough.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Note to self if that were to happen : OSHW SIM modem (or even eSIM) that forwards to whatever (API, email, etc) that then bridges to other networks.

    I have a couple of PinePhone I could keep plugged in but otherwise any Android phone where one can load an .apk e.g. Termux could have a hook on SMS then forward accordingly.

    Edit: quick search, a 4G dongle costs ~20EUR today and for compatibility on e.g. a RPi https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=210724 bother otherwise Ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G and example on Debian https://wiki.friendlyelec.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_use_4G_Module_on_Debian

    Edit2: didn't try it but https://alwaysconnected.eu/ proposes 1Gb for 1 year (probably already too much data... since one needs 0 if connected on RPi) for 14EUR and they sell a Huawei (not great but I imagine works well with the card) E3372 (no idea if it works well with Linux) for 60EUR.

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