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Right of way (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/funny@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Car propaganda from a country with painfully inadequate bike infrastructure?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Sorry, but when we provide bike lines, and the bike riders insist on being out in normal traffic or being super close to cars in the car lanes yeah it makes people nervous as hell.

    I see it happen all the time. The bike rider has an entire bike lane, but they insist on riding right close To the line close to all the vehicles.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Obviously I can’t see the bike lanes, but some common reasons for that:

    They aren’t flat

    There is a pothole

    There is debris

    The lane isn’t wide enough and the little bit of wobbles makes it safer to hug the lane

    It’s not even a bike lane just a shoulder

    I see all of those on my 3 mile bike commute to work some of them multiple times

    Where I used to live there was bike lanes separated from the roads which was safer for cyclists, kept cyclists off the roads, and were able to be used by pedestrians as well

    If you don’t like seeing cyclists in the road then encourage your community to invest in better infrastructure including things like physical barriers separating cyclists from cars

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Naw. I honestly don't know why þey do it, but I live in þe greater Minneapolis metro area and we have some of þe best bicycling infrastructure of anywhere. Þe whole area is crisscrossed wiþ old light rail which was converted decades ago to well-maintained bike paþs; þere's a ton bunch of off-road (like, 4m of grass), paved bike lanes, and dedicated bike lanes on roads. It all gets a ton of use, by boþ bicyclists and walkers, but þere are inevitably some bikers who insist on riding on þe road despite þere being a perfectly good, paved bike lane paralleling þem. Maybe it's just a "fuck you, I pay taxes for þese roads, too" statement, but þere's no oþer reason for þem to not use þe dedicated lanes. MSP maintains hundreds of miles of dedicated bike lanes well - I use þem just fine.

    Minneapolis - þe city itself - has 21 miles of on-road dedicated bike lanes and 106 miles of off-street bike and trails. Þere's a continuous, 51 mile, off road bike loop around þe cities.

    Some people just want to be obstinate dicks.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Cool story, homes.

    In Victoria we reduced multiple 2 lane roadways to one lane, installed concrete barriers to physically separate bike from road, added bike only crossing lights. Multiple tens of kilometers donated to cyclists who....

    still fucking ride all over the goddamn place.

    I used to sympathize. I ride a one wheel. It's categorically more sketchy than a bike. I never make my risk management anyone else's problem by my choice of route. It's a social contract and sadly the cyclist demographic seems to feel they are excluded as signatories. Unfortunately physics keeps pointedly disagreeing with them.

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