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Science Badly Needs Defending Right Now. It Doesn’t Need Your Belief. (newrepublic.com)
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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

Like I said, I likely won't be able to change your mind because you're holding on to a belief of what that word means in regards to scientific acceptance. I don't expect you to go in search of how you're wrong because it seems like you're holding on to ways that make you feel right. Either way, I've said all I can. Good luck to you!

Here are some links:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-purpose/201810/what-actually-is-belief-and-why-is-it-so-hard-change

https://thisvsthat.io/belief-vs-science

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2254849

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So you can't actually support your position, only point out I'm supporting mine. That's... Interesting.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I did support mine, and never said you're not supporting yours, just that you misunderstand.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I didn't say you said I wasn't supporting mine. Now I'm not sure you've really read carefully anything I wrote.

    And you simply keep asserting your idea. Ignoring most of my arguments, examples, and questions. For instance, when I asked for the actual specific definitions you claim you and science use, you didn't provide them. Instead you ignored the most basic request for evidence possible, and suggest I'm being dogmatic in my belief, instead of you. As I said, that's interesting.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I figured that was a typo because I wasn't pointing out that you were supporting your point. I did provide the links you asked for. I didn't even derail the conversation to point out that you think philosophy is a science. It's not, in a traditional sense. But it does highlight some fundamentals of why these concepts are difficult for you. You'll want to see or believe what you want, even if it's to intentionally miss the point apparently. Like I said, good luck to you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Ah! Admittedly I didn't look at the second two links. You gave no description of what they were. I simply looked at the first and assumed the others were in the same vein.

    And I was essentially correct in thinking you included the epistemology in the definitions of Believe and Accept. You could have simply said as much. And with those definitions you are correct.

    I also didn't realize Epistemology was considered an area of philosophy, not science. Thank you.

    Now I see where you're coming from and I appreciate that. Thank you.

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