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[–] 13 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Man, I would, too, if I could.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (12 children)

    They are creating an amazing national park system over there.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (11 children)

    "Housing is for living, not speculative investment" is a policy the CCP adopted in 2016. They are leading the globe in renewable and clean energy production. It really seems like they're building a society for the people and creating the infrastructure to make that happen.

    I'm sure it's not some perfect utopia, but where is? And it does seem like they're headed to better places than we are here in the West.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    This comment reads like straight Chinese propaganda lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    “Housing is for living, not speculative investment” is a policy the CCP adopted in 2016.

    Absolutely laughable statement to anybody who has actually been to China. Have you?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    No, I haven't. Have you? To live or to work? Can you share your experiences that make you feel it's laughable?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yes, I have, although my experience is mostly limited to Beijing with a bit of time spent elsewhere. Housing is at least as expensive (relative to wages) as it is in a typical western city, despite there being graveyards of unfinished apartment blocks everywhere just outside the 5th ring road. This isn't getting into the brutal working hours and mediocre wages, lack of free healthcare, etc etc. It isn't really any better than the US (not that the US are good, they're just bad in somewhat different ways)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thanks for sharing, it's great to hear different perspectives on these things as it feels like they aren't so often discussed by normal people.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's hard even for people in China to discuss this amongst themselves, so that's understandable. I do recommend visiting though - it's still a beautiful country, and the people are far friendlier and more welcoming than I had expected (I thought they'd be very reserved)

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