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Might as well say it out loud. (lemmy.world)
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Tolerance for the intolerant is suicide for society. People who deny human rights for others deserve no human rights for themselves. They must be ridiculed, ostracized, outlawed, and if they still won't shut up, they must be beaten senseless.
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[–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And the Trump administration has not yet committed any Holocausts or genocide yet. At this point in time it is still "future crime". The Trump admin hasn't been convicted in the Hague of genocide.

Once Trump opens death camps and starts exterminating LGBTQ people, only then does Kirk rises to the level of Streicher. Until that point, it is execution for political disagreement and free speech. You don't have to like the guy in any way for that to be wrong.

We don't want to set a precedent that the best way to change someone's political ideology is to kill them to eliminate that ideology.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I feel like you're reading to me a yugioh trap card that only activates when our opponent summons a big monster. God, the waiting must be agony.

    You don't have to like the guy in any way for that to be wrong.

    I think death just makes you feel icky. Like, in general.

    I don't care that Kirk died. I'm not saying it's a good omen for things to come, exactly, but I can't even pretend to give a shit. The world does not need him.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I really don't know how I should reply to this. Like yes, murder in general is something I am not fond of, and I am pretty sure that is a normal response?

    Politically motivated murder is also something I find a specific version of repugnant, no matter the politics of the victims. I think the same about the Minnesota legislators. I feel the same way about the attack on Paul Pelosi, and I think Nancy should be a criminal. Neither deserve to be killed. Killing political opponents is the ultimate breakdown of society.

    I am not squeamish about death in general however, be it war or accidents or suicide. Death happens, it's part of life. I can look as Russian soldiers dieing in Ukraine as both a senseless waste of life and totally necessary and warranted at the same time as they are an invading army. I may even experience some schadenfreude, but know intellectually that it's not something that should be celebrated.

    If someone does something stupid like try to pet the Bison in Yellowstone, I think it's tragic for their family while being the obvious outcome of their jack of judgement. Before you make the comparison, one side of that obvious outcome of stupidity is a literal wild animal without the ability to reason.

    It's the murder part that makes me "feel icky", not the death part.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I may even experience some schadenfreude,

    Why are you describing this to me like you're getting a secret snack from the kitchen.

    and I am pretty sure that is a normal response?

    It is, but it's strongest among people who were taught that wishing ill on the ones cracking their whip is impolite.

    Kirk's final words on this great green earth were "tranny tranny tranny, black gang violence, 13:50." Is this really worth ruining your mood over? Like, it's Sunday, you should take your son to the park or something.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is, but it's strongest among people who were taught that wishing ill on the ones cracking their whip is impolite.

    It's strongest among those that were taught that everyone is human.

    Charlie Kirk's death may or may not be worth ruining anyone's mood over, but sectarian violence that threatens to snowball is. Even if the shooter turns out to be an even further right white Christian nationalist doing this to cause a further erosion of the divide, it works if people on the left are celebrating.

    Oh well, you know what they say, and eye for an eye will blind my enemies more and then everything will be just fine.

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