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[–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Ok how do they plan to enforce that?

By banning HTTPS at the ISP level?

Edit: and then how do they enforce GPDR? Because you better believe everyone and their mother is going to snoop on every communication made.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Blocking HTTPS would be frighteningly hilarious. My employer is one of thousands of websites that utilizes HSTS, which tells web browsers to use HTTPS. Our implementation of HSTS, like lots of banks etc. is also listed with HSTSpreload, which means browsers like chrome will only ever use HTTPS with our site.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What if they just do MITM with a Trusted root? Does HSTS provide a method to do cert pinning?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    HSTS just enforces HTTPS over HTTP.

    I seriously doubt Chrome or Firefox would ever be coerced into trusting a cert like that. If they did then you would see a very rapid shift away from those browsers to one or more of the open source alternatives.

    And any CA that issued such a cert that allowed for wholesale MITM access like that would be blacklisted by all the browsers very quickly as well. That would put the CA out of business very quickly.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    By banning HTTPS at the ISP level?

    I think you might not be aware of it but big institutions like governments and such can basically already circumvent HTTPS encryption by supplying fake root certificates and forcing the ISP to redirect traffic through their own servers.

    That is why End-to-End encryption is such a big deal. Because it cannot be circumvented by the government alone. If done right (proper key exchange), it cannot be broken by anyone but the legitimate recipients. The way WhatsApp does it today, Meta could technically break it too, though i'm not sure whether they do.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's not necessarily very easy. These certs would have to show up in public certificate transparancy logs for most browsers to accept them. If this happens on a government scale it would surely get noticed, though the question remains what you're left to do if the government forces it anyways...

    See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_Transparency section "Mandatory certificate transparency"

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