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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

US colonial empire in its entirety is most corrupt ever. For US, zionist, corporatist oligarchy and monopoly supremacy is guaranteed dictatorial mandate enforced by media. In NATO and other colonies, CIA/State buying loyalty from every politician and media, while also threatening to JFK non compliance is very cheap. That the corruption of empire is more visibly extreme under Trump, doesn't mean it wasn't always there. Under direct economic war from US, NATO colonies have pledged to bankrupt their own countries with 5% of GDP in US weapons purchases to double down on a losing war with Russia, that the US started.

There needs to be military coup in US and in colonies. Constitution is worthless and corruption irreparable, IMO, but even if repairable, no one is coming close to proposing it, and the effort required within the rigged system against dictatorial pillage and designed collapse is simply too monumental.

So, Chinese system is far better than West's. Military/one party rule doesn't mean kleptocracy or oppression. It doesn't mean no one is ever allowed to make improvement suggestions. In recent survey, Chinese were more happy with their level of democracy than Western countries by a 2:1 factor. It's not even remotely close as to which is the lesser evil.

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[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh my goodness.

Go to the US and call Trump a fuckwit.

Then go to China and call Xi Jinping a fuckwit.

Which one had you arrested? That's right, China.

Go to the US and say Assange and Snowden are heroes and should be remembered.

Then go to China and say the Tiananmen Square Massacre should be remembered.

Which one had you arrested? That's right, China.

Now do the same with the political system.

Now try to access an anti-US propaganda site from the US.

Then try to access an anti-China propaganda site from China.

Which one's access was blocked? That's right, China.

Now ask ChatGPT about the US Government's war crimes.

Then ask Deepseek about the Chinese Government's war crimes.

Which one refused to answer? That's right, Deepseek from China.

I'm not saying the US is good. In fact, I agree with basically all you said about the bad in the US. But don't be fooled by the mask of the Chinese Dictatorship. The proles are easy to fool, and statistics are easy to fake. I should know, I come from a heavily corrupt post-communist state that would make US corruption look like Child's Play in comparison.

The only things China is better at, are the more efficient brainwashing and exploitation of its citizens, and the more efficient use of funds, funneling them towards further wealth of the state, rather than further wealth of the billionaire class (because in China they aren't just friends, they're one and the same).

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Capitalists that mouth off are silenced in China, yes, as are any genuine threats to capitalism in the US Empire. The rest of your comment is just hatred of the working class. "Brainwashing" fundamentally doesn't exist, it was invented during the Korean War to explain why Chinese supported their government, and failed to be achieved by MK-Ultra. China doesn't have advanced brainwashing tech. The reality is that people support socialism because it works for them.

In China, capitalists are subservient to the working class. The state is under control of the working class, and has been since the CPC beat the Kuomintang. Your hatred of the working class would make Orwell blush.

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[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

... as are any genuine threats to capitalism in the US Empire

Yeah, I pretty much agree. I guess you could argue that Bernie is still alive, but there's a reason the Dems never let him run, and there's been smear campaigns against him.

"Brainwashing" fundamentally doesn't exist.

Not as you interpreted it, it doesn't. But in the metaphorical sense, (like the media keeping you focused on other things, you know the whole "bread and circuses" thing) it does.

The reality is that people support socialism because it works for them.

You think the people actively support China's flavour of authoritarian communism deliberately, and not because of fear or the media? Tell that to the Tank Man and all the others that died fighting for democracy and freedom, at the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

The state is under the control of the working class

I don't think I've heard anything that's more ridiculous than that!

Tell that to the Uyghurs and other muslims that the CCP is sending to internment camps. I don't think the workers in those camps control the state in any way, otherwise they wouldn't be in there in the first place.

Your hatred of the working class would make Orwell blush

And your defence of dictatorships will make Trump, Musk and Thiel squeal in joy.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Bernie isn't a challenge to capitalism, he's a social democrat that wants welfare capitalism. Unlike Fred Hampton, MLK jr. etc.

Brainwashing does not exist. Propaganda exists in all systems, and works by appealing to felt material reality, not by fundamentally rewriting it.

The people overwhelmingly support the PRC in China, and it's because their conditions have been dramatically improving. "Tank Man" wasn't killed, and neither were the protestors on the square. Riots around Beijing resulted in hundreds of deaths, yes, but you're clinging to a falsified version of events. The rioters weren't supporting "democracy and freedom," but a restoration of capitalism and liberal control. The protests were unpopular, and now polling shows overwhelming support for the PRC:

As for Xinjiang, read this resource guide. Support for the CPC persists in Xinjiang, despite the re-education programs for the seperatists.

All in all, you fully accept Red Scare nonsense and try to slander me as "supporting dictators" as you directly parrot the talking points of Theil, Musk, and Trump.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago

The true power of free speech is the power of divisive lies/disinformation. That you think your media is free/honest, allows it far greater disinformation power to ensure oligarchist/zionist supremacy control. It has gotten to an extra level with Trump threatening media whose news departments push back on his disinformation, or Universities that permit disapproval of genocide. Zionazi media mergers for Paramount and TikTok designed to patch up any threats to supremacist order.

Is the freedom to lie more important than the deserved fuckwit status? CIA corruption of colonies requires the freedom of divisiveness propaganda/lies. Even little people like me, can get banned from reddit/lemmy main CIA subs for pushing back on zionazi warmongering disinformation propaganda. Speech that could change anything is definitely suppressed. You don't notice it when you just agree with (your fundamentally state) supremacist media narratives.

If making Winnie the Pooh or Mohamed cartoon memes is important to your "happiness", it's almost certainly because divisiveness is important to your salary or self/social esteem.

A constitution and democracy that protects zionazi lizard people rulership, is one that protects it from any sunglasses that exposes them. The goggles, they do nothing. It's late stage democracy.

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