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we must maintain the status quo (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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To anyone who supports capitalism or otherwise opposes socialism:

Do you support the idea that one man can accumulate enough wealth to own all land of this Earth, making everyone born in his empire under his rule as long as he can kill to defend it? What prevents capitalism from accomplishing this in law? What law exists that limits the borders of nations?

Why, then, must we endure a system where a single man owning the Earth and enslave it is a feature, not a bug?

https://dice.camp/@sean/114698774200264413

I just wanna know what people think. Why must this be maintained? Why is any opposition to capping wealth just the end of the world when it probably would save it, just logically thinking it through?

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[–] -1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Tired same old Internet argument garbage, where every argument is against the worst possible absolute of the Other.

The short answer is "numerous regulations and laws exist" and the long answer is that Capitalism pays the paychecks of everyone who controls basically everything, so it's not going away, and the best you can do is enact sensible regulations on it. Because you and everyone else don't have the ability to change any of that really.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    It's simply asking "what are the safeguards of capitalism that prevents a terrible person from doing terrible things with its seeming limitless ability to affect the Earth and its inhabitants?"

    So far the answer has been: Western Democracy

    "Is western democracy is enough to keep capitalism from doing terrible things to Earth and its inhabitants" is my question. The framing obviously alludes to the argument:

    Western democracy is either complicit in allowing genocide and conflict across the middle east over the past three decades, or it has been too powerless and ineffective to prevent it. Maybe we should give the opposition to capitalism (any form of anti-capitalism) a try to maintain peace across this beautiful world we all inhabit and need to live.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    lets try literally anything else

    Okay, but, counter offer: cloud of sexless hydrogen?

    Sounds pretty good, right?

    Right?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No thanks, I'm not a socialist or a communist. I support the US Constitution and democracy, both of which are in far more need of support these days than fantasy revolutions like yours.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago*

    Let's try out democratic socialism instead of democratic capitalism, why not? I love America and my neighbors of all races and religions and creeds, let's make it great with socialism.

    The real fantasy is believing capitalism will usher in a semblance of peace across this Earth, yes even for those brown and black people in the americas, Middle East, pacific islands, and Africa. I'm not so sure why you believe it's the only way to make it happen.

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