▲ 1518 ▼ Google: 'Your $1000 phone needs our permission to install apps now'". Android users are screwed - Louis Rossmann (www.youtube.com) submitted 1 year ago by rustyredox@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 500 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Android_Developer_Verification
[+] Ilandar@lemmy.today 78 points 1 year ago (20 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Can you even (easily) install custom apps on iOS? The last thing I remember is it being a huge pain in the butt... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Ilandar@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] exu@feditown.com 7 points 1 year ago Apple just recently made it impossible to install one torrent client from the Alt-store. They're not any better than what Google is planning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (12 children) I trust China more than this current administration..What are they gonna do? Drone strike me? Oh, wait, that's the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (9 children) If you are American, you should buy Chinese tech because the Chinese government is more interested in spying on and controlling its own people than you. If you are Chinese, you should buy American tech because the American government is more interested in spying on and controlling its own people than you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago Seems like I'm fucked. Being Chinese-American means the US government is constantly suspicious of me being a "CCP Spy" and also the CCP has overseas illegal "police stations", I'm getting fucked over by both sides. Just perfect permalink fedilink source parent [–] zeca@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Im sure the us uses its tech dominance to sway political opinions one way or another in my country (brazil). And spying on people is a requirement for that. It seems like an attitude in line with the history of the relations between the us and brazil (and countless other countries). China probably tries that too, although i dont have a strong historical evidence for that disposition from china. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago not disagreeing in any way, but just sharing reputable sources on that statement before anyone says it is a "conspiracy": https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33398388 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/7/5/us-spied-on-brazilian-president-and-top-officials Also, given that we are almost 10 years afte this article, I'm pretty sure any sane person (by that I mean someone who is not bolsonarist) can see where the (predictive) article agrees or disagrees with reality (past brazilian news and even memory of events): https://themillenniumreport.com/2016/04/brazil-on-the-brink-of-a-u-s-coordinated-coup-detat/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children) What if I am american, but travel to both countries? I am thinking xiaomi w/ custom ROM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Get a Pixel to use in China and a Xiaomi to use in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* Lol. Which do I use in Vietnam? Serbia? If I'm in Canada and Trump threatens to invade, should I switch to the pixel for a week? permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Can you still unlock the bootloader on Xiaomis? It was always a pain, but I've read they have completely locked them down now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) From what I hear you can either 1. Register with Xiaomi and try to unlock it once a month. 2. Slip a service center worker with special access like 100RMB or buy a pre-unlocked one on taobao. 3. Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. Lmfao I just saw that video on reddit, it was so bizarre permalink fedilink source parent [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You trust China more? The State-Capitalist Authoritarian regime? They country that developed the spyware known as Wechat, which is currently monitoring most of the overseas Chinese Diaspora? LMFAO. Spoken like a westerner who never stepped foot on mainland China. Why are people always being campist lol. Just because you think "your side" is is bad, doesn't mean you should just blindly support the "other side". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago It's about picking noncooperative jurisdictions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) The upgrade cycle on iphones is longer than that on android. $1200 flagship samsung phone turns to shit after 2 years. $1100 iphone keeps chugging for 4-5. The android rot is real. Apple is far from perfect but the phones last way longer on average and end up having a lower cost overtime. That is if youre not buying bottom of the barrel budget phones to compare against. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago All of my old phones work fine as the last time they were updated. My 10 year old Sony xperia z3c would be fine except for security updates and it's only 3g, and the storage on it is quite measly. I still use it everyday for playing music, though. Most of the speed issues are google bloat. Play services are absolute hogs, and anything that needs them will not work on this phone, but everything that doesn't is perfectly fine. So I'm basically stuck with f-droid apps. Which is fine, because it's a glorified iPod at this point permalink fedilink source parent [+] H0neyc0mb@lemmy.world -19 points 1 year ago (1 child) ...Used or refurbished iPhones are relatively cheap and better for the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Can you even (easily) install custom apps on iOS? The last thing I remember is it being a huge pain in the butt... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Ilandar@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] exu@feditown.com 7 points 1 year ago Apple just recently made it impossible to install one torrent client from the Alt-store. They're not any better than what Google is planning. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Ilandar@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] exu@feditown.com 7 points 1 year ago Apple just recently made it impossible to install one torrent client from the Alt-store. They're not any better than what Google is planning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exu@feditown.com 7 points 1 year ago Apple just recently made it impossible to install one torrent client from the Alt-store. They're not any better than what Google is planning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (12 children) I trust China more than this current administration..What are they gonna do? Drone strike me? Oh, wait, that's the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (9 children) If you are American, you should buy Chinese tech because the Chinese government is more interested in spying on and controlling its own people than you. If you are Chinese, you should buy American tech because the American government is more interested in spying on and controlling its own people than you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago Seems like I'm fucked. Being Chinese-American means the US government is constantly suspicious of me being a "CCP Spy" and also the CCP has overseas illegal "police stations", I'm getting fucked over by both sides. Just perfect permalink fedilink source parent [–] zeca@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Im sure the us uses its tech dominance to sway political opinions one way or another in my country (brazil). And spying on people is a requirement for that. It seems like an attitude in line with the history of the relations between the us and brazil (and countless other countries). China probably tries that too, although i dont have a strong historical evidence for that disposition from china. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago not disagreeing in any way, but just sharing reputable sources on that statement before anyone says it is a "conspiracy": https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33398388 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/7/5/us-spied-on-brazilian-president-and-top-officials Also, given that we are almost 10 years afte this article, I'm pretty sure any sane person (by that I mean someone who is not bolsonarist) can see where the (predictive) article agrees or disagrees with reality (past brazilian news and even memory of events): https://themillenniumreport.com/2016/04/brazil-on-the-brink-of-a-u-s-coordinated-coup-detat/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children) What if I am american, but travel to both countries? I am thinking xiaomi w/ custom ROM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Get a Pixel to use in China and a Xiaomi to use in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* Lol. Which do I use in Vietnam? Serbia? If I'm in Canada and Trump threatens to invade, should I switch to the pixel for a week? permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Can you still unlock the bootloader on Xiaomis? It was always a pain, but I've read they have completely locked them down now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) From what I hear you can either 1. Register with Xiaomi and try to unlock it once a month. 2. Slip a service center worker with special access like 100RMB or buy a pre-unlocked one on taobao. 3. Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. Lmfao I just saw that video on reddit, it was so bizarre permalink fedilink source parent [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You trust China more? The State-Capitalist Authoritarian regime? They country that developed the spyware known as Wechat, which is currently monitoring most of the overseas Chinese Diaspora? LMFAO. Spoken like a westerner who never stepped foot on mainland China. Why are people always being campist lol. Just because you think "your side" is is bad, doesn't mean you should just blindly support the "other side". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago It's about picking noncooperative jurisdictions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (9 children) If you are American, you should buy Chinese tech because the Chinese government is more interested in spying on and controlling its own people than you. If you are Chinese, you should buy American tech because the American government is more interested in spying on and controlling its own people than you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago Seems like I'm fucked. Being Chinese-American means the US government is constantly suspicious of me being a "CCP Spy" and also the CCP has overseas illegal "police stations", I'm getting fucked over by both sides. Just perfect permalink fedilink source parent [–] zeca@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Im sure the us uses its tech dominance to sway political opinions one way or another in my country (brazil). And spying on people is a requirement for that. It seems like an attitude in line with the history of the relations between the us and brazil (and countless other countries). China probably tries that too, although i dont have a strong historical evidence for that disposition from china. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago not disagreeing in any way, but just sharing reputable sources on that statement before anyone says it is a "conspiracy": https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33398388 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/7/5/us-spied-on-brazilian-president-and-top-officials Also, given that we are almost 10 years afte this article, I'm pretty sure any sane person (by that I mean someone who is not bolsonarist) can see where the (predictive) article agrees or disagrees with reality (past brazilian news and even memory of events): https://themillenniumreport.com/2016/04/brazil-on-the-brink-of-a-u-s-coordinated-coup-detat/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children) What if I am american, but travel to both countries? I am thinking xiaomi w/ custom ROM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Get a Pixel to use in China and a Xiaomi to use in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* Lol. Which do I use in Vietnam? Serbia? If I'm in Canada and Trump threatens to invade, should I switch to the pixel for a week? permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Can you still unlock the bootloader on Xiaomis? It was always a pain, but I've read they have completely locked them down now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) From what I hear you can either 1. Register with Xiaomi and try to unlock it once a month. 2. Slip a service center worker with special access like 100RMB or buy a pre-unlocked one on taobao. 3. Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. Lmfao I just saw that video on reddit, it was so bizarre permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago Seems like I'm fucked. Being Chinese-American means the US government is constantly suspicious of me being a "CCP Spy" and also the CCP has overseas illegal "police stations", I'm getting fucked over by both sides. Just perfect permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zeca@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Im sure the us uses its tech dominance to sway political opinions one way or another in my country (brazil). And spying on people is a requirement for that. It seems like an attitude in line with the history of the relations between the us and brazil (and countless other countries). China probably tries that too, although i dont have a strong historical evidence for that disposition from china. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago not disagreeing in any way, but just sharing reputable sources on that statement before anyone says it is a "conspiracy": https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33398388 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/7/5/us-spied-on-brazilian-president-and-top-officials Also, given that we are almost 10 years afte this article, I'm pretty sure any sane person (by that I mean someone who is not bolsonarist) can see where the (predictive) article agrees or disagrees with reality (past brazilian news and even memory of events): https://themillenniumreport.com/2016/04/brazil-on-the-brink-of-a-u-s-coordinated-coup-detat/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago not disagreeing in any way, but just sharing reputable sources on that statement before anyone says it is a "conspiracy": https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33398388 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/7/5/us-spied-on-brazilian-president-and-top-officials Also, given that we are almost 10 years afte this article, I'm pretty sure any sane person (by that I mean someone who is not bolsonarist) can see where the (predictive) article agrees or disagrees with reality (past brazilian news and even memory of events): https://themillenniumreport.com/2016/04/brazil-on-the-brink-of-a-u-s-coordinated-coup-detat/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children) What if I am american, but travel to both countries? I am thinking xiaomi w/ custom ROM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Get a Pixel to use in China and a Xiaomi to use in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* Lol. Which do I use in Vietnam? Serbia? If I'm in Canada and Trump threatens to invade, should I switch to the pixel for a week? permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Can you still unlock the bootloader on Xiaomis? It was always a pain, but I've read they have completely locked them down now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) From what I hear you can either 1. Register with Xiaomi and try to unlock it once a month. 2. Slip a service center worker with special access like 100RMB or buy a pre-unlocked one on taobao. 3. Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. Lmfao I just saw that video on reddit, it was so bizarre permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Get a Pixel to use in China and a Xiaomi to use in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* Lol. Which do I use in Vietnam? Serbia? If I'm in Canada and Trump threatens to invade, should I switch to the pixel for a week? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* Lol. Which do I use in Vietnam? Serbia? If I'm in Canada and Trump threatens to invade, should I switch to the pixel for a week? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Can you still unlock the bootloader on Xiaomis? It was always a pain, but I've read they have completely locked them down now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) From what I hear you can either 1. Register with Xiaomi and try to unlock it once a month. 2. Slip a service center worker with special access like 100RMB or buy a pre-unlocked one on taobao. 3. Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. Lmfao I just saw that video on reddit, it was so bizarre permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) From what I hear you can either 1. Register with Xiaomi and try to unlock it once a month. 2. Slip a service center worker with special access like 100RMB or buy a pre-unlocked one on taobao. 3. Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. Lmfao I just saw that video on reddit, it was so bizarre permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Ask said worker to downgrade firmware, then, before they relock it, snatch phone and run out of the store. Lmfao I just saw that video on reddit, it was so bizarre permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You trust China more? The State-Capitalist Authoritarian regime? They country that developed the spyware known as Wechat, which is currently monitoring most of the overseas Chinese Diaspora? LMFAO. Spoken like a westerner who never stepped foot on mainland China. Why are people always being campist lol. Just because you think "your side" is is bad, doesn't mean you should just blindly support the "other side". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago It's about picking noncooperative jurisdictions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago It's about picking noncooperative jurisdictions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) The upgrade cycle on iphones is longer than that on android. $1200 flagship samsung phone turns to shit after 2 years. $1100 iphone keeps chugging for 4-5. The android rot is real. Apple is far from perfect but the phones last way longer on average and end up having a lower cost overtime. That is if youre not buying bottom of the barrel budget phones to compare against. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago All of my old phones work fine as the last time they were updated. My 10 year old Sony xperia z3c would be fine except for security updates and it's only 3g, and the storage on it is quite measly. I still use it everyday for playing music, though. Most of the speed issues are google bloat. Play services are absolute hogs, and anything that needs them will not work on this phone, but everything that doesn't is perfectly fine. So I'm basically stuck with f-droid apps. Which is fine, because it's a glorified iPod at this point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago All of my old phones work fine as the last time they were updated. My 10 year old Sony xperia z3c would be fine except for security updates and it's only 3g, and the storage on it is quite measly. I still use it everyday for playing music, though. Most of the speed issues are google bloat. Play services are absolute hogs, and anything that needs them will not work on this phone, but everything that doesn't is perfectly fine. So I'm basically stuck with f-droid apps. Which is fine, because it's a glorified iPod at this point permalink fedilink source parent
[+] H0neyc0mb@lemmy.world -19 points 1 year ago (1 child) ...Used or refurbished iPhones are relatively cheap and better for the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)