bridgeenjoyer comments on Technial Skills in 2025

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (15 children)

This is actually scary. They cant do anything without an internet connection.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I have a mild existential crisis every time the Internet goes down. I have no idea what's wrong, and I cant use the Internet to find out what's wrong.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

You should work to become sufficient offline. I have my whole life because I know how fragile it is.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not really. If the internet goes out in our office 100% of our programmers are going home. Doesnt make them bad, the internet is to useful to work without.

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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm kinda helpless if I can't get maven packages or check packages against the CVE database.

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

the documentation is literally on Internet. Python standard library, MSDN, posgresql, odbc drivers. Everything is online. are you suggesting you memorised your whole stack, and did you printed out ? Granted * some * of it can be downloaded

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[–] urandom@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I remember when ‚man 3 printf‘ and such was a thing. Good times, those. Then there’s ‚go doc encoding/json‘ as well. I’m sure other languages have some offline docs

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

To be fair, programming without internet is just (very) unproductive.

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[–] sepi@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

For you

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Tell me you're not a programmer without telling me you're not a programmer.

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[–] sepi@piefed.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I got almost 3 decades of writing software for money. I don't need stack chatgpt overflow. I know some standard libraries by heart.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Guess you just "know" all the new stuff coming out?

I programmed for a living before stack overflow, and it was just less effective.

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[–] sepi@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

You can download docs once and refer to them pretty much. You can also download dependencies once and read their source code to figure out questions you may have.

Like, sure, I need the internet to download new packages and tools and their documentation and stuff. I will concede this. But after that, I can live off the land.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sure you can and we all had to live without nice things at a certain time, I had the Nintendo DS & Wii doc in physical text form (because NDA and so I guess), with only a handful of helpful people on the Nintendo forum. But that was invaluable, still remember that guy from Team17 helping me out because the audio was bugged in the console.

I mean we can all motor through it and spend lots of time figuring it out, I actually like that 😁, but having access to the whole worlds shared knowledge is kind of nice too.