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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (40 children)
  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)
  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    "Genocide is the wrong word to describe the horrors in XinJiang"

    Wow great job on that one. You found the word genocide in a link in the 160 page report and it proves my point.

    A link is not a claim by Amnesty by the way.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    you haven't even read that article, headline reader. If you did, you'd know that's a deliberately provocative headline. lol

    or the amnesty one for that matter

    you also don't know how sources work

    quadruple F

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    The 160 page report also does not contain Amnesty using the term genocide.

    It only contains the three links which you pretend are evidence because you know you are utterly wrong.

    Is there even an accusation of the crime of "Extermination"? Which is basically genocide without proving intent. That is what Israel got initially.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    Is your argument legitimately over the usage of a word? You won't even entertain any of the human rights abuses because it doesn't contain your safe word? That's not how literacy works.

    Okay, well, the term "violation" is mentioned 80 times. "Abuse" 24 times. "Detain/detainees" mentioned 721 times.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Yes words have meaning. Guantanamo Bay is also many human rights abuses but not targeted extermination of an entire group.

    Thank you for conceding the argument. I agree with the second paragraph of your comment.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I don’t think the Uyghurs being forcibly surgically sterilized care what vocabulary word you use. They know they are being systematically exterminated, and so does most of the rest of the world.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    I'll concede the argument that Amnesty only references the word "genocide" three times in their report, if you concede that China is imperialist with human rights abuses and putting Uyghurs into internment camps. Which you should agree is occurring, no? After all isn't your argument It's not a genocide, it's just human rights abuses in an internment camp on the basis of their ethnicity.

    Otherwise, you should be aware that this community has rules regarding revisionism and apologia, and denying the treatment of the Uyghurs falls under violation of these rules.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    Amnesty used the word genocide zero times in their report. Unless you count text in a hyperlink as a word usage.

    Do you have any actual evidence, or is your entire argument limited to hoping nobody fact checks anything you say?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    if you concede that China is imperialist with human rights abuses and putting Uyghurs into internment camps.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Sure. Though Chinese imperialism is very little compared to the US or Europe.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don't care about the US or Europe, this is about Chinese imperialism.

    And the human rights abuses for putting Uyghurs into internment camps based on their ethnicity?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    For their religion not their ethnicity.

    Chinese Imperialism is mainly in supporting the Junta in Myanmar.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Plenty of warning and you kept doubling down. Please read the rules. Your ban will last 24 hours for apologia and revisionism.

    Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.

    You’ll be warned if you’re violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 1 year ago

    If you read the amnesty report you quote so much, you'll know that it was on grounds of ethnicity. Regardless, religion is just as bad.

    There's also no such thing as 'supportive' imperialism, and you're also ignoring Tibet, China in the Southern sea and the Belt and Road initiative

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Wow what normal human behavior, Ctrl+Fing a report describing an ongoing genocide and instead of seeing the systemic and targeted human rights violations and becoming upset at the flagrant devaluation of human life, you go winging on about whether or not it technically is a genocide or not, and throw in some whataboutism as a red herring. Very normal human behavior that doesn't scream tankie at all

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (21 children)

    @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Why do you doubt the genocide of the Uyghurs?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Please don't creep out on the votes and start arguments based on assumptions. If I wanted to debate, I would have commented.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

    I make exceptions for admins, and you certainly want to engage, considering you've been downvoting comments critical of tankies in the past.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    Voting is absolutely not "wanting to engage". Also jumping to conclusions based on voting patterns is just a recipe for drama.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    Well, I'm giving you a good opportunity now to explain

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Seriously mate? You don't get to demand an interrogation whenever you fancy out of people.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Sure, I can handle it, but I'm not gonna entertain your creepy-ass behaviour.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I like to know what people are supportive of Uyghur genocide denialism, and also because this community and myself regularly get brigaded and attacked by spammers/bots

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Nice try walking it back. Lets hope everyone forgot this discussion is about you calling out someone because they voted a certain way.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Not someone, an admin. I can see all votes (you can too using different forks), and this is the only time I've publicly called attention to it because db0 is an admin, instance owner and moderator of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com. Which, mind you, is a community that is dedicated to interrogating people -- Honestly couldn't resist the chance to test that hypocrisy.

    It's alarming for them to be supportive of tankie talking points.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Calling out anyone at all except for botting sends a message to everyone here that you are watching them for wrongthink.

    Calling all human rights organisations tankies because they do not call it genocide does not really work. You just agreed with this point down below.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not someone, an admin. I can see all votes (you can too using different forks), and this is the only time I’ve publicly called attention to it because db0 is an admin, instance owner and moderator of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com. Which, mind you, is a community that is dedicated to interrogating people

    When did I call human rights organisations tankies?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why does Amnesty deny it?

    Why does Human Rights watch deny it?

    Why does Doctors Without Borders deny it?

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    They don't? Someone linked it so you can read it for yourself (or rather didn't)

    take the L

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