Fuck AI

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[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

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[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

I could reply to the same person that you are, but I felt it was much funnier if I reply to your comment and say that I love how I can feel your incredulous exasperation, and that I relate.

This is a fairly trite comment, and it is very echo-chambery, in the sense that you're the preacher, I'm the choir. However, as you point out, LLMs and Generative AI make the phrase "echo chamber" far more literal. I feel like it's funny to engage in parallel conversation with you, while ignoring the pro-AI oddball you're replying to.

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[+] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're so deep in YOUR echo chamber that you don't see my argument for what it is lmao. I'm talking about jobs, idiot.

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[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

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[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m too stupid

We finally agree on something.

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[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Either you read my original point, or you keep circling the pot and resorting to red herrings and straw-men because your fallacious ass is not rational enough to reply to the heart of the matter which I presented in my original comment.

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[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

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[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -4 points 1 year ago

Do you think management grows on trees or something?

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[+] ZDL@lazysoci.al 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

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[+] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's not about the idiots using them, it's about the idiots hiring them. If you don't conform to the job market out of sheer stubbornness you're a fucking dumbass.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So anything, no matter how foolish or evil, is acceptable so long as "the market" desires it? Complaining about it makes you a dumbass?

Or are there things that should be pushed back on? What is the line?

Also, is it "sheer stubbornness" is a collection of concerns and objections grounded in facts and experience?

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[+] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The "experience" as you call it would be getting rejected by jobs that assume AI usage has become necessary.

There is no line in finding a job, it's an existential need, you can't live without food or water you can only buy from the money you get paid. So the "line" is moral. You're denying job opportunities for morals 🙄...

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There is no line in finding a job, it’s an existential need

There is no line? Absolutely nothing? You would work at an Auschwitz styled concentration camp for food money?

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[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because AI = Auschwitz, clearly an argument from a sane mind.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That wasn't the argument nor the question. The question is where do you draw the line. I gave an extreme example I assumed is on the far side of your line. Once we have that, we can do like a binary search and try to find it. Come on, man.

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[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Alright, I do seem to draw the line further than your group at the very least, but equating that with an Auschwitz example? Not cool.

So yes, I'm perfectly fine using a garbage, insane, and very probably inefficient AI in order to get a job so I can live. I'm sorry you prefer to be against it all and therefore judge anyone else not in a privileged-enough position to have a choice in the matter.

I'm sure you all have cushy jobs, that would explain a lot actually. Would be fun to do a poll on that at some point...

If you would rather stay on your pedestals and judge people because you're above and beyond them, as you have the choice to do so, that's your prerogative.

I give people the benefit of the doubt because I know using AI can be forced onto someone by their company if it so happens that they don't have a choice. That's called compassion, otherwise known as empathy. Your entire group's reaction to my post was one of attack and derision, so I am well aware of where you all stand wrt to empathy.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

It's not equating it with Auschwitz! You said, quote, There is no line in finding a job. No line! That's a bold claim! So I picked a very extreme example to demonstrate that there, hopefully, is a line. It's not equating AI to Auschwitz. It's saying that your claim, that there is no line and you should work any job for money, is false. Once we establish that, we can then go into details about AI and where that falls. Please. Please understand how this line of reasoning works. We weren't even talking about AI specifically yet in this sub-thread.

Your entire group’s reaction to my post was one of attack and derision, so I am well aware of where you all stand wrt to empathy.

This is funny because your opening here was calling us idiots in an echo chamber.

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[+] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -10 points 1 year ago

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

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[+] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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Gobal Finance: Companies Face AI Buyer’s Remorse.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Vice: This Company Replaced Workers With AI. Now They’re Looking for Humans Again.

Techfinitive: 2025: the year of rehiring humans after AI fails.

One more thing: Don't assume people that don't like the synthetic text extrusion machines that people refer to as "AI" don't know anything about how they work, or how to integrate and deploy them. I think you'd be surprised at the sorts of people hanging out in c/FuckAI.

But what do I know, I make sandwiches for a living ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -5 points 1 year ago

I am not denying that these jobs are facing pressure now, but that's exactly why you should conform to the demands of the job market and not be bullheaded in your denial of a tool deemed essential by so many employers to this day (even if some are finding out the hard way that it isn't all positive).

So I stand by my point that stubborn denial of AI as a tool, and I mean a tool useful to being hired, is stupid.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stop. You’re embarrassing yourself. I am embarrassed for you.

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[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Keep being stubborn and facing a hiring ecological dead-zone then.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago

Its a quote from the article. Its really sad that AI bros have forgotten how to read more than a paragraph.

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[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Better to be an idiot than management's yappy lapdog.

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[+] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then don't get hired I guess? How's your air-based diet?

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[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doing alright, thanks for your concern.

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[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

I did think most of your little pompous group* seemed like they were sufficiently well-off to rest on your high horses and feel adequately rich to judge everyone else around you for their choices.

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[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago

I don't judge anyone making whatever choice they have to make to survive, especially wrt using AI given how it's shoved down everyone's throat.

I do have little patience for someone who comes all guns blazing, calling someone an idiot over that very fact, and dares talk about empathy after belittling the OPs "liwwle feelings".

I have zero patience for the actually rich people who force that shit on us and would love not to see stupid infighting between people who suffer and are alienated from it.

This is pretty much what my initial, admittedly too snarky, response meant. Now either you're trolling or this is, for whatever reason, a sensitive subject for you. In both cases I don't see the point of discussing that further and apologies if I hurt you.