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[–] 93 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Hey I studied this in grad school for a bit, and it really is just "someone does some dumb shit which leads to a cascading wave of additional people doing dumb shit which propagates backwards for miles." Basically when the offered load is getting close to the maximum load, all it takes is one person aggressively changing lanes to throw that section of highway into gridlock, and it will remain that way until the total integrated traffic flux across that incident boundary again falls below the critical offered load inflection point.

Basically, pick a lane and just stay in it. Maintain proper following distance. Counterintuitively, the following distance should be for the speed you want to drive, so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow. This is because it reduces the offered load, and once that number falls below the critical point, speeds will increase again. Bumper to bumper traffic basically prevents that from happening because it dampens the ability for a "speedup" wave to propagate.

Of course this is all impossible for humans. All it takes is a few idiots to throw off the balance.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Yep! All it takes is one person braking, and then the person behind braking, then the person behind them, and eith each braking the overall speed slows down more and more. It creates a wave of traffic. The wave passes through. The starting point I think moves back further and further.

    I think about it a lot while I sit in traffic.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think the issue is more or less slow drivers. One asshole is going 60 in a 70 in the left lane which caused people to pass them which in turn cause the cascade from the maneuvering around the slow person.

    Slow drivers are far more dangerous than people don't 10 15 over the speed limit.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If people pass quickly, then get out of the left lane, nobody needs to brake and start a compression wave

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why is Driving Slower than Other Vehicles Just as Dangerous as Speeding? https://share.google/U82ugU39Gc0XOa55G

    A Few Slow Drivers Increase the Number of Accidents https://share.google/SUYjn8eEkNNLe5xBO

    Slow Drivers: Dangers of Driving Slow | Allstate https://share.google/7GP2waFViHMUqEJYj

    Some times you people don't even know what you're downvoting.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That is exactly what I'm suggesting. And so are the sources I provided.

    But let me be clear. People who go slow on purpose in high speed areas are a danger for people trying to go faster. I'm not taking about people speeding recklessly. I'm talking people going 60 in a 70 or 20 in a 35. They cause other drivers to maneuver around them which could cause a situation.

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