▲ 421 ▼ Google will require developer verification for Android apps outside the Play Store (techcrunch.com) submitted 1 year ago by mas@jlai.lu to c/technology@lemmy.world 101 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 year ago (12 children) There dies the last remaining reason to use Android. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se 15 points 1 year ago (6 children) And use what instead? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (5 children) Linux. The mobile ecosystem will have to mature fast though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] T156@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (3 children) I don't think it will. It hasn't so far, despite there having been linux phones in the past, and it's got the Windows Phone/Symbian problem where users don't go to it because it lacks support for the apps they use, and developers don't support it because it doesn't have much by way of users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Let's hope, gaming on Linux has become so good I un installed windows completely... permalink fedilink source parent [–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago That's why we need to move to it - be the egg that becomes the first chicken. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I mean we do have the benefit of Waydroid on most Linux distros, so maybe it'll be a Wine/proton situation where the new OS emulates Android apps in a separate container. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago There are a few key issues with mobile Linux: UIs that have simply not gotten any attention A severe lack of decent hardware Scaled down desktop apps on a phone (seriously who thought this was a good idea) No security whatsoever Basic features missing or requiring a significant degree of tinkering to get working such as audio or calling permalink fedilink source parent [–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 year ago (4 children) You say that like there's a better alternative permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's iOS. It works great, but has no real sideloading. Android works meh, but had proper sideloading. Now Android will no longer have it, so you might as well bite the bullet on the OS with better hardware integration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] obelix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'd argue it doesn't "just work" any longer. I recently left iOS for Android, after 10 years with an iPhone. The keyboard was the first issue, the OS stalling and making the device heat up was another. The lack of actual smarts got a bit annoying, too. You ask Siri something and it goes down a k-hole. I'll probably end up on a Fairphone without any Google tripe, which is a shame, because I quite like my new OnePlus 13. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Apple is basically the default (at least in the US) so if Android cant offer significantly more theres not much reason to use it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago iPhones are too expensive for some people. Not everyone has $500 lying around. You can't get an iPhone for $100, an unlocked Motorola phone is only about $100, if you get a carrier locked version its like $30-$40 (and you can carrier unlock them 60 days after activation, just get the cheapest 30 day plan will do, you don't even need 60 days of service to get it unlocked. Pricing wise, Android phones will still have advantages, even with google's autocratization. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se 15 points 1 year ago (6 children) And use what instead? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (5 children) Linux. The mobile ecosystem will have to mature fast though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] T156@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (3 children) I don't think it will. It hasn't so far, despite there having been linux phones in the past, and it's got the Windows Phone/Symbian problem where users don't go to it because it lacks support for the apps they use, and developers don't support it because it doesn't have much by way of users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Let's hope, gaming on Linux has become so good I un installed windows completely... permalink fedilink source parent [–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago That's why we need to move to it - be the egg that becomes the first chicken. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I mean we do have the benefit of Waydroid on most Linux distros, so maybe it'll be a Wine/proton situation where the new OS emulates Android apps in a separate container. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago There are a few key issues with mobile Linux: UIs that have simply not gotten any attention A severe lack of decent hardware Scaled down desktop apps on a phone (seriously who thought this was a good idea) No security whatsoever Basic features missing or requiring a significant degree of tinkering to get working such as audio or calling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (5 children) Linux. The mobile ecosystem will have to mature fast though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] T156@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (3 children) I don't think it will. It hasn't so far, despite there having been linux phones in the past, and it's got the Windows Phone/Symbian problem where users don't go to it because it lacks support for the apps they use, and developers don't support it because it doesn't have much by way of users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Let's hope, gaming on Linux has become so good I un installed windows completely... permalink fedilink source parent [–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago That's why we need to move to it - be the egg that becomes the first chicken. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I mean we do have the benefit of Waydroid on most Linux distros, so maybe it'll be a Wine/proton situation where the new OS emulates Android apps in a separate container. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago There are a few key issues with mobile Linux: UIs that have simply not gotten any attention A severe lack of decent hardware Scaled down desktop apps on a phone (seriously who thought this was a good idea) No security whatsoever Basic features missing or requiring a significant degree of tinkering to get working such as audio or calling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] T156@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (3 children) I don't think it will. It hasn't so far, despite there having been linux phones in the past, and it's got the Windows Phone/Symbian problem where users don't go to it because it lacks support for the apps they use, and developers don't support it because it doesn't have much by way of users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Let's hope, gaming on Linux has become so good I un installed windows completely... permalink fedilink source parent [–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago That's why we need to move to it - be the egg that becomes the first chicken. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I mean we do have the benefit of Waydroid on most Linux distros, so maybe it'll be a Wine/proton situation where the new OS emulates Android apps in a separate container. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago Let's hope, gaming on Linux has become so good I un installed windows completely... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago That's why we need to move to it - be the egg that becomes the first chicken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I mean we do have the benefit of Waydroid on most Linux distros, so maybe it'll be a Wine/proton situation where the new OS emulates Android apps in a separate container. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago There are a few key issues with mobile Linux: UIs that have simply not gotten any attention A severe lack of decent hardware Scaled down desktop apps on a phone (seriously who thought this was a good idea) No security whatsoever Basic features missing or requiring a significant degree of tinkering to get working such as audio or calling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 year ago (4 children) You say that like there's a better alternative permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's iOS. It works great, but has no real sideloading. Android works meh, but had proper sideloading. Now Android will no longer have it, so you might as well bite the bullet on the OS with better hardware integration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] obelix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'd argue it doesn't "just work" any longer. I recently left iOS for Android, after 10 years with an iPhone. The keyboard was the first issue, the OS stalling and making the device heat up was another. The lack of actual smarts got a bit annoying, too. You ask Siri something and it goes down a k-hole. I'll probably end up on a Fairphone without any Google tripe, which is a shame, because I quite like my new OnePlus 13. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Apple is basically the default (at least in the US) so if Android cant offer significantly more theres not much reason to use it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago iPhones are too expensive for some people. Not everyone has $500 lying around. You can't get an iPhone for $100, an unlocked Motorola phone is only about $100, if you get a carrier locked version its like $30-$40 (and you can carrier unlock them 60 days after activation, just get the cheapest 30 day plan will do, you don't even need 60 days of service to get it unlocked. Pricing wise, Android phones will still have advantages, even with google's autocratization. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's iOS. It works great, but has no real sideloading. Android works meh, but had proper sideloading. Now Android will no longer have it, so you might as well bite the bullet on the OS with better hardware integration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] obelix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'd argue it doesn't "just work" any longer. I recently left iOS for Android, after 10 years with an iPhone. The keyboard was the first issue, the OS stalling and making the device heat up was another. The lack of actual smarts got a bit annoying, too. You ask Siri something and it goes down a k-hole. I'll probably end up on a Fairphone without any Google tripe, which is a shame, because I quite like my new OnePlus 13. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] obelix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I'd argue it doesn't "just work" any longer. I recently left iOS for Android, after 10 years with an iPhone. The keyboard was the first issue, the OS stalling and making the device heat up was another. The lack of actual smarts got a bit annoying, too. You ask Siri something and it goes down a k-hole. I'll probably end up on a Fairphone without any Google tripe, which is a shame, because I quite like my new OnePlus 13. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Apple is basically the default (at least in the US) so if Android cant offer significantly more theres not much reason to use it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago iPhones are too expensive for some people. Not everyone has $500 lying around. You can't get an iPhone for $100, an unlocked Motorola phone is only about $100, if you get a carrier locked version its like $30-$40 (and you can carrier unlock them 60 days after activation, just get the cheapest 30 day plan will do, you don't even need 60 days of service to get it unlocked. Pricing wise, Android phones will still have advantages, even with google's autocratization. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago iPhones are too expensive for some people. Not everyone has $500 lying around. You can't get an iPhone for $100, an unlocked Motorola phone is only about $100, if you get a carrier locked version its like $30-$40 (and you can carrier unlock them 60 days after activation, just get the cheapest 30 day plan will do, you don't even need 60 days of service to get it unlocked. Pricing wise, Android phones will still have advantages, even with google's autocratization. permalink fedilink source parent