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Let's stop arguing and do something. (lemmy.world)
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essentially an enormous part of the reason that online leftist spaces suck so much is that they are filled with people who believe it is more important to do nothing wrong than it is to do something right
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[–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

It's almost like if blatant genocide changes the equation. Honestly, Israel should have lost our support a long time ago. It's easy to see how deep corruption and most likely black mail had a big role to play.

Yes, the world would be a better place with Harris at the helm. It's a shame she tried her hardest to lose. FYI, I voted for her but I'm also mature enough to realize that she basically gave all her voters the finger and that's why she lost.

Keep blaming the evil voters who couldn't stomach genocide and we will get the exact same play next election. You are enabling, not helping. It's their job to get votes and care about our opinion ffs.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Single issue voters always make the world a worse place.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I find it crazier that the dems decided to make genocide a voting issue in the first place. Weaponized incompetence, I swear. They could have told Israel to pound sand, but they chose a foreign state over us. They screwed you too man, have a spine.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Yes, but it's not the ONLY thing going on. Would you let the rest of the world burn to stop genocide in the middle east? I'm guessing not.

    So if there is a massive problem that we can't directly take action to fix, you try to attack the source of the problem or other adjacent problems.

    This idea that the Dems need to be fully against it or I'll never vote for them is naive. If the alternative is WW3 with 10x the deaths or continued genocide I don't like either but I'm not going to sit on the sidelines while WW3 starts and complain about the dems stance as the reason I didn't try to prevent it. Maintaining a moral high ground at the expense of people isn't ok. Yes they could have done a million things better or different, but they didn't. We had a choice to make with the options we had. Some people rejected reality and ushered in this shit storm so they could keep their concussion clean, it's selfish. They'd rather have peace of mind than actually prevent suffering, because they had a chance to and didn't.

    There are other people, other children suffering because of Trump that would not have been if Harris won. That's just fact. Preventing him from getting in office or not, the events in the middle east remain the same, but those other lives impacted could have been prevented. We need to open up our world view and have it grounded in reality.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So if there is a massive problem that we can't directly take action to fix, you try to attack the source of the problem or other adjacent problems.

    I think that is the crux of the issue. I don't see condemning Israel and stopping the sale of weapons as some massive wall. The dems failed to take action and I'm taking action right now by holding them accountable for it.

    The fact is they didn't even try to solve the issue. Israel themselves admitted to it. I consider it their fault Trump won and even more people have to suffer. I see the constant scapegoating post-election as serving nothing except enabling them.

    They need to be told their platform, built on foreign genocide and apathy, is literally atrocious. We need to demand change, not give them an easy way out.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You're holding them accountable? How? By making sure they're not in power, so we're at where we are today? You're holding them accountable by having people deported en masse as a result of your strategy?

    You seem to think you're hurting dems by not voting. You're not. They're still rich and in power. The people that were actually impacted are the people in LA, all the small businesses falling apart from tariffs, people being grabbed off the street.

    All this, because you want to stick it to the dems, do you really feel good about the effects of that choice?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    post-election post-election post-election

    I was vocal about voting for her before the election and did so myself even if it felt wrong. We are well past the point where supporting genocide helps them win an election.

    The dems lost because voters are babies that couldn't stomach genocide.

    Do you understand how vile the narrative you try to spread is? It's simply enabling the dems to keep doing Israel's bidding. By contrast, I'm saying:

    The dems lost because they supported genocide

    Blaming and holding them accountable for their actions might actually lead to change while blaming voters brings about absolutely nothing. If they give us the same platform next election, we will lose again. They have to change and we have to pressure them to. It is their job to listen to what the people want, not the other way around.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    but the democrats have to appeal to their zionist money-givers too! it's difficult for them to strike a balance between the money-givers and the people who are supposed to vote for them.

    and the people who should vote for them aren't directly hit personally by the israel genocide, so why would they care too much about that?

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