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[+] -7 points 1 year ago (52 children)

And didn’t accomplish shit, by design. These types of protests are intended to channel frustration of the masses into feeling like they’ve done something, when really they’ve accomplished nothing.

That was more than enough people to overthrow the parasitic ruling class. Just do it already.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    Please, if you feel like you've got the charisma and plan to rally us to, come on over and do so. Otherwise you're doing no better.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Doing no better than what? What was accomplished? What’s the bar we’re measuring against?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Than the people you criticized. They got off their asses and touched grass for a few hours, met other likeminded individuals, networked, got to know allies in their communities. What are you doing, Comrade? Other than rereading the Communist Manifesto for the zillionth time? Where's your praxis?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (21 children)

    That’s what I wanted to confirm. If that’s the bar we’re setting for accomplishments, my group’s blowing them out of the water.

    Funny attempt though. I’m not sure how you expected the argument to go your way, when your own standards for accomplishment set a bar so low that almost every single person minimally involved in any activism is doing loads more than this bare minimum measure.

    Considering the “no kings” folks were sponsored by the Walton family and purposely enforced a stance of silence on the Gaza genocide, this doesn’t even meet the threshold for bare minimum on human decency.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Your conspiracism is silly but otherwise you're correct

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    “Conspiracy” implies something hidden. The financial backers of this event were listed in plain English on their ads.

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    Yes, they seem to be attempting to avoid a MAGA boycott by saying this is a personal choice by the Walton heiress, which just coincidentally aligns with Walmart’s pushback attempts against cuts to social benefit programs that’s expected to impact their profits.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So YOUR ASSERTION is that all the ads say "No Kings Day, brought to you by WalMart!" but they're offended by ONE ad (in a publication that MAGA hates and would never pay to see) and that might possibly cost them the MAGA patronage?

    Explain this. In detail. Fully.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don’t know how to explain this in a way you’ll understand it. I don’t have any training in teaching the mentally challenged.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    OR....

    It is a contradiction that makes no fucking sense

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are struggling with bipolar or some other personality disorder? It’s one thing to not understand something. It’s quite another to be aggressively confused. This is not healthy.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Deflection will not work. You have been called out to BACK UP YOUR GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING CLAIM. Either do it or accept that you're a goddamn motherfucking lying sack of dog shit. Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

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    Cool, then Sieg Heil to you, mein guter Herr. Enjoy your moral superiority when ICE kicks in your door.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yes, if you oppose ICE but not the genocide, I am morally superior to you. That is a factual statement.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (19 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (16 children)

    Do you have any receipts for that "billionaire sponsored" claim?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

    Hardly a “claim.” They didn’t hide it. Their backers were listed right on many of their ads.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/walmart-ad-no-kings-boycott/

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    "The advertisements from Christy Walton are in no way connected to or endorsed by Walmart. She does not serve on the board or play any role in decision-making at Walmart," the company said in a statement to CBS MoneyWatch.

    Walton has also made clear that she paid for the ad herself, and that it represents her own views.

    I 100% believe billionaires shouldn't exist, are a millstone on the neck of society and progress. I'd also support any action that would take care of the problem... But I don't think you link shows much more than a single deplorable person experiencing a twitch of morality.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Right there in the article it says that she's the heiress, and not on the board or involved with Walmart in any way besides her familial relation. If billionaires want to chip in for organizing and advertising protests, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. This is one of those moments in history where you take the support you can get and do your virtue testing bullshit after things are less dire.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    The most common refrain I've seen from interviews with protestors is the desire for Trump to be impeached and face some semblance of the rule of law. If the billionaires want to help us make that happen, I'm happy to take their money and we can work on taxing the hell out of them when we're not fighting for the lives of every marginalized person in this country.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    The fact that you think the fight for our lives only was an issue under Trump is exactly why you’re a worthless ally.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I am profoundly well aware of how marginalized people have been victimized for the entire duration of this country's existence. I work in medicine, and most of my experience has been in emergency medicine. I have more experience than I ever wanted to have with trying to save people from the maw of poverty and destitution and I have been involved in social services in one way or another since childhood. My life is one of the ones on the line if shit goes sideways enough, but that doesn't stop me from standing up to my superiors to fight for the rights and humanity of my patients, especially those who are members of marginalized groups that face more structural barriers to health than others.

    I am not just an ally. My head's on the chopping block too, and your assumption to the contrary is insulting.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You may be useful, but you’re not a trusted ally. Your eagerness to join causes funded by billionaires, paired with your refusal to examine their motivations, make you a significant liability.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm not eager to join them, and she spent her money in a way that was impossible to refuse. Are you saying that everyone should have abandoned the planned protest as soon as she took out that ad? Are we supposed to throw hissy fits and cancel everything we try to do because someone that doesn't pass a purity test participates?

    Unless you're out there interrogating every single protest attendee and refusing to participate in any political action that your "undesirables" are also participating in....you're just as much of a hypocrite as you are claiming that I am.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So you compromised your morals to ally with immoral people, and you can’t even articulate for what reason or what was accomplished by it? Christ, that’s sad.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm going to be honest, I've been speaking vicariously because I did not personally attend this protest. I wasn't able to make it due to some personal health issues, so I've been talking to you from the perspective of someone who supports the protest, but did not participate. I don't know what your problem is beyond being the kind of leftist that values purity tests over support, but I'm quite finished entertaining your notions of "debate" and wish you a good day.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You misunderstand. Genocide is not up for debate. This is like accusing someone of a purity test for not wanting fecal matter and their drinking water.

    If you can’t even stand against genocide, you have absolutely no sense of right and wrong.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Can you even articulate with the protest was for? What were the actionable demands? What did it stand for?

    Opposing genocide is a perfectly acceptable “purity test” that anyone should be able to pass. It’s just basic human decency.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was a moral victory. It showed us jow strong and numerous we are and we needed that.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It was a protest organized by a billionaire that was overtly anti-revolution and neutral on genocide.

    It was specifically set up to reinforce inaction among a frustrated populace. Numbers don’t mean anything, without the will to use those numbers to revolt.

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