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The Enrage would be super enraged if they learned about this (fedia.io)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/historymemes@lemmy.world
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Explanation: "We should bring back the guillotine" or similar is a common internet quip in response to billionaires doing billionaire things, when in reality the guillotine was invented to provide equal and humane deaths to people of all classes, and from there it was always a tool of the state rather than the people. Not the best euphemism for "we should depose the bourgeoisie." In fact plenty of Revolutionary justice folks were themselves offed by the guillotine during the Terror.

Office meme with smiling manager shaking hands with a confused (???) employee. "The internet left using the guillotine as a euphemism for class war and deposing the bourgeoisie" is written on the manager and " The guillotine, having never been involved in class war in its entire existence" is written on the employee
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[–] -2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yet to call the entirety of the French Revolution a class war is wrong, see my previous statement.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Why only speak in extremes? The French Revolution was a class war. It was also a great many other things. Requiring that it only be defined by a single trait is diminutive and disparaging to history.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    So your point is that the French Revolutionary War was a class war but we shouldn't define it by that trait?

    Why even have words at this point? I should just start grunting emotionally.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    No, that isn't my point at all. My point is that it is one aspect of it, so defining it solely by that trait in such a binary way, yes or no, is infantile and anti-intellectual.

    Words are meant to share ideas, not bonk other people over the head to prove your rightness. Try reading them, and consider what would happen if someone else said them, rather than how it might fit into your own narrow world view.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And what I'm saying is that if a campfire turns into a wildfire it's no longer a fucking campfire.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    But it started as a compfire, from your own words

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    So the argument is that's its ok to be reductive about your point, as long as it's in favor of your point.

    Thank you for clearing that up.

    Edit: I will be continuing this discussion with various emotionally charged grunts.

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