Which workarous? They just want JS access to the clipboard and it is rightfully blocked by Firefox.

The correct workaround is to not use JS to access the clipboard and suddenly everything work as intetended as if the browser already does the right thing.

Do nothing and it works, some call that magic 🌌

They implemented the workaround on all of their web apps, probably poorly tested. But it does make sense after all. It is annoying but it works everywhere. We Firefox users are a minority, and they have little incentive to spend resources on us.

Anyways, imho this issue in particular should be fixed by Mozilla. Microsoft can implement workarounds, but I think the real solution is implementing JavaScript clipboard access API. Firefox can show the usual "This website is trying to access your clipboard. [Allow] [Reject] [Always reject]" message, and I would say that would be safe enough.

I was told it was added for security, so the user would have to confirm pasting to avoid certain exploits. 🤷

No idea if that's true.

It can be turned off in Firefox. I had to, as I work in google docs a lot and it was Winding me up.

about:config has a flag for it.

If you can't find it, let me know and I'll look up which one I changed

yeah these tricks are pretty fun to read

Well, I'm on Windows11 with Firefox at work, and can cobfirm that Ctrl v and Ctrl Shfi v both works as described in the post when I copy from old outlook and past into an Azure ticket.

The issue is, as explained in your link, because websites what a fucking access with JS to the clipboard. Firefox rightly protect us from the websites just looking to our copied password.

If the website just did nothing it would work by default. But they feel the needs to capture right click, and all Ctrl * shortcut to re-implement them in JS. A few years ago their webapp even broke next/previous buttons (that exist near the reload button and are binded on most mouse) all so they won't show they are loading the next page to the user.

TL;DR webdev are lazy, clumsy especially in large Corp.

Because Firefox does not allow/support clipboard access through JavaScript. Microsoft decided to apply this workaround on all of their web software. Unfortunately, this one is for Mozilla to fix.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1068472

Very interesting. Thanks for posting!

i hope it doesn't turn into another homebrew

I really hope it takes off. There are some genuinely good ideas in macOS, but as a whole it's a steaming pile of garbage at this point.

I want this so much.

Thanks for making it, was a really neat concept. :)

Hi, I am the creator (Basel), thanks for sharing!!

It was a fascinating dive, and the idea of making a document oriented OS rather than application oriented one would've been so much better. The most frustrating part about modern computing is that data is tied to specific apps. But if things were designed around data from the ground up, we could've had far better file standards. Business logic could've been decoupled from presentation as well, and you could create interfaces on the fly to represent a specific workflow you want. Basically a similar idea to the way shell scripting works but for the desktop.

In fact, this LinuxInsider article from 2003 calls ITRON "the most popular operating system in the world," and while nobody has published hard numbers since, the Yomiuri series reported that TRON-based operating systems still run in roughly 60% of the world's embedded devices.

I wouldn't exactly call that a "screeching halt".

Thanks for the article, though, that was an interesting read!

Thanks for the share, I love this kind of toys !

thing can just be fun :)

This is really cool. But I wonder how useful it is.

I'm not really someone who focuses on one persons knowledge and level and follow as a measurement. I'm more like reading across a group of people, then doing my own thing of type of person.

For you that sounds like a great fit because you can use this guy as your bar/motivation. Once you feel like you’ve reached this guy’s level, you can start looking for the next person.

The difficulty ratings most of the listed stuff for me would be at least 8/10 up to 10/10. I mean this guy rates Threaded Virtual Machine as 6/10 and just takes 1 week to do it. Why isn't x86 OS kernel or a Compiler for a C-like not a difficulty of 10/10? There is no task this guy rated as 9 or 10/10 difficulty. I don't know who the audience for this guys blog is, but its way above my head.

There is no joy without pain.

This guy gets it.

I have no hope for my car’s Android Auto or LG’s stupid website — but I choose to believe that everyday software will get better as a result of this frustration. We’re already seeing [acts of rebellion] against the current state of macOS and Windows, and I hope the trend will spread across the stack.

I was hopeful, until I clicked on "acts of rebellion" to see that he's talking about omarchy...

For the unaware: https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/a-word-on-omarchy/

Now, maybe omarchy has gotten much better in the 8 or so months since this critique was first posted?

ha