[–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is still a pain in the butt.

  • You don't know until you log in to a site whether they have assessed you as over 16, and also what type of verification they want. There's a bunch of sites that I only visit occasionally, and I guarantee it will be when I urgently need that information, that I get blocked.
  • I have different usernames for different sites/socials etc. I would either need to have my list of sites prepared and do one visit to the pub (awkward), or do it as needed (inconvenient and/or liver traumatising). See above for the problems with that - we don't know what each site/social will require, and they may not accept the bar/restaurant with alcohol method.

I'm not arguing with you guys, I'm just pissed off about the whole situation. It's a joke and every "verification method" is open to faking/abuse.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Ooh - I missed this update last week:

    This genuinely boggles my mind. The government can make sentences like this, but they can't make them reality. Imagine if it said that only people with red hair were allowed to access the site. What technology exists to handle that? Because it is effectively what we are facing. We can only try our best - but we can't assure the government 100% that no user has tricked us onto the platform. And I'd still say that if I had the resources of Google to ensure compliance.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    We aren't going to make public what people have given us in confidence. That's simply not happening.

    We might share some of the text-based responses as reference examples to inspire others, but it's an emphatic "no" on anything that has an above 0% chance of doxxing our people. Which will likely be all the photos.

    We love you guys too much to remotely entertain that risk.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    However that doesn’t mean things won’t change. Afaik Dreamwidth and 4chan are litigating to not have to comply. And more sites could be brought in during the second wave.

    What could Australia possibly do, other than geoblocking 4chan, if they don't comply exactly?

    I see the UK government has noticed Bsky (part of the fediverse) and demanded verification there so it’s possible ours might learn what it is as well.

    Bluesky is much larger than the Fediverse here to be fair. It's not the same. Moreover, they'd have to individually investigate hundreds of instances as they are all independently run.

    Creepily the UK also seem to be making tentative noises about VPNs now.

    Eh, nothing concrete. What are you referring to?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    They seem to for now?

    From what I can tell these relaxed measures for Aussie Zone are pre-emptive, to establish that ‘reasonable steps’ were taken and hopefully avoid being pressured to demand more intrusive verification in future.

    However that doesn’t mean things won’t change. Afaik Dreamwidth and 4chan are litigating to not have to comply. And more sites could be brought in during the second wave.

    I see the UK government has noticed Bsky (part of the fediverse) and demanded verification there so it’s possible ours might learn what it is as well.

    Creepily the UK also seem to be making tentative noises about VPNs now.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Hi, Brit here.

    I'm confused. I thought the rules from Australia here only applied to specific platforms rather than anywhere. I read somewhere about specific platforms being considered exempt. The likelihood to me that the Australian government (or your Ofcom equivalent) even know about the Fediverse to me seems slim.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    I would very much like to see any amusing pics that people are using as proof. You know if they are keen to post it here as well.

    I'm racking my brain trying to come up with something funny to send in.

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