Most humans have no concept that they are exploiting animals. That doesn't make it not exploitation.

Had a meat lover dude tell me how disgusting it was that they eat dogs in Korea*... Like how could people be so cruel.

He made zero connection to beef farming I guess.

*our dog is a rescue from Korea, most likely a dog farm. But our friends dog is 100% from a dog farm.

While I was working the other day, someone brought in pizza for the team. There was two types cheese and Pep. There was one person who is a vegetarian and couldn’t eat either. I felt bad overall.

It's not easy being a vegist.

This post triggered a butthurt carnist @Voyajer@lemmy.world

My bot banned them 2 mins after their little tantrum

It's all ha ha my food eats your food until you don't want to share your perfectly ripe watermelon

I made the mustard from grinding home grown artisanal mustard seeds and adding water, waiting a bit then adding some vinegar lol

Okay this isn't the point because the comment you are replying to is a jerk (as in, it's in the spirit of the circlejerk) but some mustards contain non-vegan wines.

Still not rennet but not too far off tbh

Nah fam I think most people in these comments are new to the concept. I lol'd.

Sorry but the adhesive holding the label onto that mustard bottle was made from horse hooves. No mustard for you.

Non-vegan "food" is a misnomer anyways. It's corpses and excretions.

Sorry, I was just messing around. I don't think there is any mustard with rennet in it. I might've misunderstood the tone of VeganCirclejerk

I can't find a single reference of mustard with rennet existing

Could have been moldy on the other side

Or just remove the twig and eat it anyway

"Vegan food" is kind of a misnomer anyway, IMO. Plant based makes much more sense. "Vegan" is a moral conviction, not a food attribute.

meh, I'd eat it anyway

Paleomustard

Ruined a perfectly good piece of bread

I don't remember Lemmy having an equivalent to r/frugalcirclejerk but if it did, this would be the perfect crosspost

What kind of mustard uses rennet????

Is that even rennet-free mustard?

The line between vegan food and non-vegan is so frustrating to me.

Apples are vegan. I eat them all the time but I’m not vegan.

I love food that’s just plants but the second it’s called vegan others turn their noses up at it.

It’s so dumb. But it deals with people so it’s gonna be dumb.

A classic logdog with an urban harvest salad, lovely

Look at moneybags over here with the bread 🙄

The one point in my post I thought was strongest is the wild animal case - there is probably suffering from the victim, but there's no exploitation, a wild animal doesn't have any concept of that and therefore cannot be exploiting (there might be an exception but I don't think we need to go there)

I was going to respond to this, but I'm not sure you understood this part of the the comment you replied to:

Exploitation, by contrast, is something you can control. You are the one doing the exploiting such as using an animal for food, clothing, entertainment, or labor. You can choose to stop. You don’t need to measure the inner experience of a cow or a chicken. You just need to ask: Am I treating this being as a resource? If yes, and you don’t have to, then stop. That is both actionable and measurable

Exploitation is independent of what the exploited experience.