It comes pre installed with ubuntu iirc. Thats probably why.

If anyone uses Neochat on a regular basis feel free to correct this.

This is coming from someone who tried the client on Bazzite.

So thats why people with matrix.org accounts stopped responding to my messages...
Nice mention of the benefits of decentralization.

The incident demonstrates the benefits of a decentralized system. Users with their own homeservers aren't affected, nor are organizations such as Element, which have customer deployments that utilize the underlying technology.

One homeserver going down does not affect the rest, even one as visible as Matrix.org.

Matrix has become increasingly important in recent years as public and private sector organizations seek to reduce their dependency on centralized messaging services that might not meet sovereignty or privacy requirements. The Matrix.org outage, while embarrassing, serves to highlight that a decentralized approach can protect users from whoopsies on the part of those who run the service.

Thanks this post makes me feel better!

can’t speak for op but cinny can do it and i think also fluffychat

For more information, I wrote this post that reports on the situation ^[1]^.

Fun. Any idea why?

Wait you can use custom emojis in other clients? I never really thought about it, what do you use?

Eh i expected the vulnerability to be something worse with this level of secrecy, but better like this than the other way around.

Slow as hell

That is using the legacy call system or even a custom system and definitely not element-call. Its not compatible with element or element-x and doesnt support large calls.

Large group calls are an absolute must if you want anyone to adopt your protocol. Element call is fucking amazing. The performance is really good client and server side. You can easily do calls with 100 people, it has proper screensharing and muting support and works as a accountless standalone web app too.

Fluffy Chat has experimental calling.

It’s very broken on iOS.

What's bad about Element?

In my experience, element is the best client

Yeah definitely gotta switch the last two.

Element is open source and can be reviewed.

Matrix.org uses custom proprietary code, has premium accounts and censors strictly.

There are no clients other than element which have proper support for element-call which i cant really live without. As soon as another client implements that tho, i might switch.

You can use Fluffy Chat on mobile and Cinny on desktop. There is Jitsi chat integration though I’m not very familiar with the calling functionality personally. They both support emote/sticker packs like Discord does.

It’s really pretty, I might try this on my pc. I mostly use matrix from my phone tho, and I didn’t spot any native support for that so I can’t actually switch.

Their website and roadmap didn’t mention it, do you know if they support video calls?

Cinny seems to be the most well rounded one.

What client would you consider good, then? I’ve liked element so far but I’m always happy to try something new

Would be cool, but its better to just not use the matrix.org server no matter where its located.

I hope they discuss taking the servers out of the UK.

Some people are such pieces of shit, why do they have to ruin matrix for the rest of us

This will cause people to move to other servers,

I'm betting it will cause more people to leave than to migrate. Which is exactly as it should be given the objectively god-awful UX.

Like you said, matrix users are concentrated in one server in a way that XMPP isn't. If one XMPP server introduced this system, it would have a much smaller impact than this change will have on matrix users, so that's a factor in assessing the risk of future problems with the two networks.

Personally, I'm undecided. I used XMPP for years and now I'm using matrix (both self hosted). Neither is perfect. Element has some shortcomings that are addressed in element X, but not all the other features have been migrated. I found the other matrix client I used for a bit, "fluffychat", is better than element but has some other bugs. I end up switching keeping more than one client installed and switching fairly often to work around bugs, which is not ideal.