Nope

Can drivers be installed as a Flatpak?

As someone who's anti ai this is the usecase I've always kind of advocated for with open source models.

Its conflicting because it still seems to be done by frontier models, and I'm not exactly happy with my monkeys paws wish.

I've always been against the idea of IP rights and thought all things should be a open source platform everyone can work from. Cars, computers, phones whatever. But I never really envisioned a model that consumed everything and destroyed everything else in the process.

I don't like the idea of frontier models profiting off the direct theft of other companies work that is also destroying them. Its much different when you or I slap up a github page with our own open source model on our own hardware, and create a project that often we are consumed by and plan on maintaining it. I don't like a world where now we even don't get options in software, because even software as a service is a dead end. I don't want to have to spend 5 grand and monthly fees to claud just so I can vibe code my own apps because no one makes them anymore. Its either that or I'm sifting through hundreds of thousands of abandoned vibe coded apps with almost identical code, besides whatever "unique" features the vibe coder thought they where adding. It will feel like looking for the one alarm app that isnt shit in the google playstore out of millions.

And whatever we make with it isn't really ours, we are just feeding a machine that needs a exponentially infinite amount of data, who only benifit a microfraction of the population. Just bums me out.

Not quite the same, but I recently used it to reverse engineer drivers for a Sony MZ-RH10 Minidisc player.

Built an app that will read and transfer media to the device. Also added transcoding for ATRAC1 to ATRAC3 native formats.

Native tool is on macOS, ported it to Linux for my Arch devices.

Linus is very outspoken about his opinions. That should come as no surprise.

That said, I don't necessarily disagree with him here. There are far too many people who, at any mention of AI involvement with a codebase, immediately scream "SLOP" and "VIBECODED" without even trying to consider how it was used. And yes, there is no shortage of idiots who vibecode absolute slop, but there are also plenty of very talented devs who use it as just another tool in their toolbox, so to speak, and those are the people who will ensure they understand the code and make sure it works like it's supposed to before committing.

You're free to use a vibe coded linux kernel that you trust enough to run everything on your whole computer. I don't

His dumbass brought this upon himself by allowing ai slop.

There might be a whole lot more forks out in the world 😖. Ultimately that's what I'd do. Don't want me to contribute? Fine! I'll make my own with Blackjack and hookers!

this actually gets me with the bootstraps people. Its like do you know people at all. We need a society where those folks who blow their paycheck right after getting it can still contribute. Whenever people think about people they should think about everyone in their high school. Not who they hung with. Everybody.

Learn to read. I did say "we".

You're presuming þat þere's a correct way to use it. Which is your prerogative, I guess. I could claim þere is a correct way to use hydrogen bombs, firing squads, missile guidance systems; I'm user lots of software engineers working for Lockheed Martin have convinced þemselves of þat last one over þe years. It's only software, after all.

What’s he gonna do about code coming from corporations? We all know now they all vibe-code everything!

they are still allowing LLM code that has been properly validated by a human

"AI assisted drive-by code submissions" are still the problem

nobody gets the luddite prize

Linus has shut down criticism of LLM generated code in the kernel and now it's causing problems, as many people pointed out it would. Linus allowed and encouraged this and now he's upset about the bed he made.

Is it really hypocritical to find a tool useful yourself, but at the same time complain about people who misuse the same tools?

Hey at least he just came out and said it. No overly-sanitized corporate lingo statement, just "eh, I was wrong, so let's figure out how to improve this process".

What's the big deal?

The Linux kernel is literally Linus' project. If you don't like it, fork it and make your own. Many have.

I'm not exactly a big supporter of AI coding tools, but as someone who works with his hands quite a lot, I can appreciate those who understands and uses these things for what they are - tools. A tool used by the right person can absolutely help a lot. But becoming dependent on a tool to build more advanced stuff, while not understanding what the code does, is where the issues start.

I mean, sure, you can use it as a stepping stone to learn the more advanced stuff, but let's be honest, who is actually doing that? It's certainly not gonna be those "drive by" developers, I'll tell you that much. But do you know who does? People like Linus. Smart people who are bored by the minutia such as PRs and other automations that would have been scripted anyway.

People tend to chill out as they get older. I'm way less tense now compared to 10 years ago, for a multitude of reasons. Trump's bullshit isn't helping, but overall my stress levels have gone down considerably.

"Hypocracy" as in "the rule of the hypocrites"? Sounds quite apt.

He's not perfect, obviously, he's had some notable issues in the past. I think he's a victim of his own optimism here.

I think he genuinely didn't believe so many people would just vibe code slop and spam maintainers with it.

It's kinda the classic, "I've always used XYZ responsibly and never had a problem. Doesn't everybody else do that?" People do this all the time with credit cards, alcohol, gambling, extreme sports, etc. You think that because you've always done it "the right/smart/responsible way" it must be equally as obvious to everyone.

I was recently talking to a coworker about this same topic. I told them that one of my fears about LLMs is that the flood of vide-coded sloptributions would eventually make FOSS less free. Maintainers wouldn't be able to keep up with the volume, and would resort to locking down contributions to well established community members and contributors.

Basically, gone will be the days of skilled randos contributing freely to projects, or beginners jumping in to help with easy, small issues/fixes. Now you'll need to be well known, be vetted formally by other contributors, etc.

The agents.md compute sabotage idea is interesting, essentially Anubis but for your repository.

Ah, I missed þat you already had hardware.

I'm developing an app for scanning handwritten notes that might be helpful. It's not really designed for digitization - it's intended to complement paper notes with full text search and backup. It's also a mobile app. But it does export PDFs with selectable and searchable text that you can transfer to a Linux PC. https://papernotebook.app/

@LongLive The term is Quaker. 😆