I got a ugreen nas. It was cheap. Their OS is Debian underneath. I installed NixOS on it. Seems to work well.

Probably the cheapest option.

@kboyd @frameworkcomputer @framework I backed an Orico NAS on Kickstarter, we’ll see how that goes. I’m not sure if the mainboard is a standard kind or not, but you can replace RAM and all the storage of course. Pretty sure the CPU is too, but I’m not sure about its cooler.A Framework Desktop with slightly refocused internals would make a pretty nice home/small biz NAS.

what's the problem with putting a bunch of disks in a desktop?

You don't have to wait! You can start today with one of these and any second hand USFF PC. The Terramaster boxes are also decent. 😊

Can't we get a trade started? You get the Fairphone and we get Framework laptops.

I found the cupped "soft rim" cap much more comfortable than the standard domed cap.

Eh honestly frameworks are unique, differentiated and practical. I just can't live without a trackpoint.I don't use the pointer much anyways, so the convenience of just having it right there on the home row for cases when I do is irresistible. I love it so much that my desktop doesn't have a separate mouse, just a TEX Shinobi keyboard (which has a trackpoint). My main laptop, X201s with cool chinese CPU upgrade also doesn't have any pointer input other than a trackpoint. I think you can see why I am hesitating to switch to a device without one, even if the repairability, future mobo upgrades, and "internal dongles" are very appealing.

And as for the dying breed, I don't think that's necessarily the case. There are a lot of questions & requests about it on Framework forums, r/framework and such. It's just that it would require a serious chassis redesign which is insanely expensive.

I get it, but we are a dying breed Balsoft. The trackpoint requires no hand movement so very efficient but for newcomers they just desist when you put that pressure into your index finger that at first, it may be even be painful; therefore they just give it up at first 5min. Also, I remember when HP made laptops with the nipple (blue and tad larger) and I was not that appealed for it (and probably everyone else) so they stop it making it. There is something else in the ThinkPad red nipple, maybe the symbology of an era. Just for that, I will probably die old in top of a Thinkpad. Now, like i mentioned, if some laptop bold company brings something truly unique, differentiated and practical... I will jump ship.

Right? Like, if you're so smart then finish assembling yourself!

So cool.

I wound verbally diss it for even thinking of trying to help me in this trivial matter tho. Like, why do you think you are so smart, you're not even fully assembled (and why does it need a keyboard even?).

Honestly I've been hovering over the buy button for like two years now. The only thing stopping me is the lack of my beloved nipple mouse.

There's been this effort, but it has stalled. There are others which have also hit a roadblock (basically, the keyboard is too thin to fit a proper trackpoint, and there's no space below it for the module to go). It sucks but I'm not losing hope for now.

I see the huge appeal for Framework laptops and kudos for them to make themselves a niche in this tough market.

I stick to used Thinkpads for now though but if Framework (or any other) makes them reasonable upgradable (5-8 screws are fine) a bit waterproof, open BIOS and the Pointing stick, I'll pay dearly for it! And I am sure I am not alone. Tuxedo, Slimbook, come on... make a bold move here!!

The mode only seems to trigger if the midplate is pressing a switch on the MB. If you are running the MB without the midplate it doesn’t seem to trigger, so the server car should be supported.

That is unbelievably cool.

I switched to an Intel card and solved so many issues where coming out of standby would break my WiFi.

I'm still gonna blame musk for it on principle.

Yep. That is only for the amd version, but it is very worth it to get it and add an ax210 for $20.

I think I’m still gonna stick with the stock card rather than upgrading right now

The stock cards are hot garbage on Linux. If you continue having issues (and as a PSA to everyone else), just skip the stock cards entirely and get an Intel one if you want things to work.