They were never an official sponsor of Omarchy. They did, however send them a laptop once.

I'm hoping that means the list they published is exhaustive and that they've been dropped.

It looks like they're publishing a list of everything they financially support, and how they're supporting it.

I see Hyperland but not Omarchy explicitly. It could be that, assuming they're not lying, they've dropped support for the higher level project in favor of the actual thing it's packaging with Arch. Maybe.

Where can I learn more about that?

I'm out of the loop; The what?

Conspicuously zero mentions of DHH and Omarchy, which the original complaint spent more time on than Hyprland. Nirav is scared shitless of upsetting the fascists.

They still have the “big tent” Nazi problem?

Framework sponsor many, including KDE.

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https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2023-hyprlandsCommunity

So are we going to get upset about an open source project with asshole devs on an open source platform who's main devs are also assholes?

I haven’t had any issues with the expansion modules you mentioned, so maybe that has been improved.

If you're on linux and if you have a USB-A expansion module installed, run sudo lsusb -v. Does it hang at any point, or does it complete without issue quickly?

but to say that an HP is better seems like a stretch

It is better. Build quality is vastly superior, display looks much nicer, CPU/GPU are vastly superior, RAM speed and bandwidth are significantly better, keyboard is MUCH better, battery life and cooling capability and efficiency are better, USB works reliably.

The only things about the 16 that are better than this HP are raw screen size, ability for dual SSDs, not having a stupid fucking copilot key, and of course the whole Framework thing with modularity, and upgradeability. I don't need the modularity as it has all the ports I want (except rj45, but not even Frameworks manage that without a protruding module), and I don't need upgradeability with the Ryzen 395+ being so far ahead of nearly every other laptop out there, it's gonna last long enough.

I hope Framework does well and keeps pushing their model, and maybe in 4 or 5 years I'll take another look at them, but for now I'm happy with what I got.

Their CEO uses Omarchy. https://youtu.be/yWkfZy0YIZ4

https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html

I fail to see how Hyprland devs is far right racists.

So who are you going with then? Considering every company seems to be finding the right.

They are a business that wants or needs to make profit and spread adoption of their product, therefore they will fund what gets them there rather than the moral choice

i dont really care about the internal politics of software projects, especially open source ones, but why in the world is Framework sponsoring an also-ran Linux window manager for power users that probably has a userbase in the low 100's? Why not sponsor the KDE or something that people actually use and would help drive Linux adoption? Very stupid, cloudflare is also sponsoring them. Maybe it's crypto-fascist solidarity.

I'm very disappointed, this "open tent" argument is intellectualy dishonest and unacceptable: allowing openly hateful people into the big tent only means they will harm other people, and end up alone. It's just impossible to have a big tent with them and must be excluded.

I was trying to get the company I work for to adopt framework laptops as standard, and they were very interested. I've told them to stop the adoption effective immediately until there's a reversal in political messaging the company is doing, a simple "we're sorry we won't don't again" is not enough when they have funded

This also applies to recommending it to friends and family, of course.

I had an HP 17 on a plane, trying to type a report. That was way too awkward. I asked my work for a 15 inch when I got back to the office.

I get wanting something smaller and more portable. As long as it's not for gaming I like the smaller form factors too, one I appreciated was the acer aspire one mini laptops they had an Intel atom CPU and I ran BSD on it for years.

I think it's safe to say the type of work someone is doing is going to steer their device choices. iPads and phones just aren't suitable replacements in a lot of cases and It wouldn't make much sense to buy a framework 16 for an iPad workload.

I also noticed this about the spacers. I actually wrapped them with a carbon-fiber-looking textured vinyl since I don't need to remove them, and it ended up looking pretty clean. My display is one of the best I've seen, and I haven't had any issues with the expansion modules you mentioned, so maybe that has been improved.

​It's unfortunate that your experience was subpar, but to say that an HP is better seems like a stretch. Ignoring the fact that HP is among the most problematic companies around (for more reasons than I care to mention), the laptop you're praising doesn't include the biggest selling point of a Framework, which is upgradability as components age.