Electric vehicle odometers can be tampered with using specialized equipment, so taxing based on mileage would be inapplicable if the fees were excessive. Currently, China has the most developed electric vehicle market, yet it has not yet resolved the issue of electric vehicle taxation, which is worth considering.

We should be encouraging EV adoption. I think it's bs.

If you want it to be proportional to road damage it needs to scale with the 4th power of vehicle weight and then multiplied per mile. That would make EVs a proper trade off (since they tend to be heavier).

Yeah but a city mile is different to a motorway mile. You could do loads more motorway miles, cause fewer issues to the road and pay more tax than the city driver that's constantly stopping and starting and torquing the road up.

The only fair road/gas tax is to charge all vehicles (not just EVs) per mile using a formula based on mileage and vehicle weight. This includes buses and semi trucks.

Could it be simplified rather than just per mile? Instead give allowances in vehicle tax. Low medium and high usage kind of thing.

Should also take into account the age of the combustion engine vehicle as it is more likely to be leaking oil which breaks down asphalt

A flat "per mile" is a bad way to measure road consumption for a vehicle. The more accurate measure is weight of the vehicle+mileage. A heavier vehicle will do more damage to roads. There is at least some correlation on petrol/diesel because a larger vehicle will have to consume more fuel to move a heavier vehicle.

However, if there is a flat 3p tax per mile irrespective of the weight of the vehicle, then smaller/lighter EVs will be paying disproportionately more of the cost of road damage than larger EVs.

Yay what a forward thinking and progressive idea.

Why can't we use Wrightbus in Ballymena? It's a good european bus company

Finnish HSL also runs some Yutong buses. I wonder if those have the same "feature"

The Chinese model featured a SIM card that allowed the manufacturer to remotely install software updates that made it vulnerable, whereas the Dutch model did not.

Sounds like a feature.

Quality issues? BYD really tries hard to copy Tesla.

Mining is dangerous, workers exploited. Saved you a click.

the kia technician kept saying that they need to replace the battery and it wasn't under warranty.

it was a 2 hour drive and was really desperate.

My friend briefly owned a Niro and had to send it back within a week. I wonder if that model is just riddled with issues?

Surprised you had to pay, wouldn't it have been covered by the 7 year warranty?

Kia nero plug in hybrid.

after a few months the charging stopped working, instead of fixing it they told me the only garage that can handle it is 2 hour drive away, after going there and spending a shit ton in repairs, they didn't fix it, and they wanted my to go back there or further to check it out. at some point I had to gave up and accept that it is no longer a plug in hybrid.

had an electric kia, was shit,

Which one was it? I've had my eye on the EVx range which looks decent.

no idea,

i see no reason I would need a high risk. my ex had similar rates

4k?! I had no idea car insurance was so high in the US. Is that normal or is it that you're deemed "high risk" for some reason?

I miss UK cars.

had an electric kia, was shit, but it was a normal sized car and insurance+ tax was practically nothing compared to what it costs me in the States.

insurance alone is 4k per year, I can cover the cost of my old ass car in a bit over 3 years of insurance.

I read somewhere that there were 50 possible models this could apply to. In each price range 15-20k, 20-25k etc the competition is vanishing small. If you need a car and have ££k to spend there are only a couple of options. They know they can price gouge, and the dealers don’t really want to sell the EV models, because they make no money on servicing.

Maybe I'm naive but there's plenty of competition in the car market, if a manufacturer raises their prices but the rest don't then they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.

This looks like great news, but I’m willing to bet the average selling price of these cars are going to go up by around £3,750.

But Heidi Alexander would not confirm whether it would give grants to encourage motorists to switch when asked by Laura Kuenssberg on Sunday, following a report in the Telegraph, external that Labour is poised to unveil £700m in subsidies.

Isn't this the very thing they need to be incentivising? Switching from ICE to EV vehicles?

For people without off-street parking - like those living in blocks of flats or terraced houses - charging an EV overnight can often be challenging, while on-street charging points can be far more expensive than charging from a mains socket.

What about offering people without a drive but with an EV some kind of discount when using public chargers?