[–] 3 points 5 days ago

I was debating writing something over on c/godzilla, but since this thread is up I think I’ll share my thoughts here.

Overall I enjoyed it and recommend it, but I have a few reservations. Mostly that it suffers in comparison to minus one, which I found to be far more rich and resonant.

Minus one had a tight focus on character and theme, and Godzilla, when he showed up, functioned as a symbol and metaphor to explore those themes. But in minus zero, that is reversed, with the emphasis on spectacle at the cost of character and story. Minus one was so character driven that you could take Godzilla out of the movie entirely, change very little else, and for the most part still be able to tell the same story. I don’t think that’s true of minus zero.

But if the character and story driven elements of the first film took a backseat to spectacle in the second, man oh man, what a spectacle it was. On that level minus zero succeeds exceptionally well. It’s not that I dislike minus zero; it’s just that minus one set the bar so high, and minus zero didn’t quite live up to it, or at least not for me. I’d love to hear what others think though.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I use lemmy primarily. I’ll use mastodon for the occasional watch party, but otherwise I’m inactive there. I’m currently exploring both loops and Pixelfed, but not sure how I feel about either yet. I’ve been meaning to look into peertube, bookwyrm, and neodb.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I can’t seem to stop thinking of this topic and I can’t sleep. so here’s a few more recs;

    • John Langan, the Fisherman. More river based horror than forest I suppose, but should fit the bill. Lovecraftian.
    • Nick Cutter, The Troop. have not read this one myself, though I’ve seen it recommended in horror lit circles often enough. Has a reputation for including scenes of graphic and shocking violence.
    • Stephen King, the Girl who Loved Tom Gordon. Have not read, but have heard great things.
    • Ramsey Campbell, the Darkest Part of the Woods, another I haven’t read, but I’ve heard great things.
    • Karl Edward Wagner, Sticks. Short story. I’ve only read a few stories by this author. Overall I wasn’t very impressed, but this one was a stand out. Rumored to be an inspiration for the Blair Witch Project, but if so I didn’t pick up on it at the time.
    • Arthur Machen, the White People. Short story. Probably a stretch to include, but it came to mind. Occult/pagan horror that takes place, in part, in the nearby woods.

    Are you set on forest horror, specifically? If we expand it to wilderness horror, I can think of a few more:

    • Jeff Vandermeer, annihilation. Cosmic weirdness in the Everglades (possibly? The location was never specified that I can recall). This one seems to be love it or hate it. I personally loved it. There are sequels, but they are inessential and frankly superfluous.
    • Scott smith, the Ruins. Jungle horror. A group of tourists are trapped on Mayan ruins surrounded by carnivorous plants. Haven’t read the book but I enjoy the movie.

    Are you willing to expand the concept of wilderness horror even further to ice/snow horror?

    • Dan Simmons, the Terror. Inspired by the real story of the HMS Terror. Trapped in the ice while in search of the fabled northwest passage. Facing starvation, mutiny, and lead poisoning, and also, there’s something out there stalking them on the ice. Have not read this, but I highly recommend the amc miniseries adaptation (the first season - there are follow up seasons that are unrelated but carry the same title. Don’t ask me why).
    • HP Lovecraft, At the Mountains of Madness. Ive read this long enough ago now that I’m fuzzy on the details, but I think it’s safe to say it is full of unnameable horrors, gibbering madness, non Euclidean geometries, turgid prose, and appalling racism.
    • John W Campbell, Who Goes There?. The basis for John Carpenter’s The Thing. (And earlier, Howard Hawks’s The Thing from Another World).

    Enjoy your camping trip!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Algernon Blackwood’s “the Willows” comes immediately to mind. It’s about two men traveling by river and forced to camp on an island. The wilderness surrounding them is depicted as supernatural and malevolent. This one is public domain I believe.

    T Kingfisher wrote a book called “the hollow places” that took inspiration from the willows and modernized it. I found this one enjoyable enough, but rather slight. Ymmv.

    Adam Neville’s “the ritual” takes place in a forest. Or so I believe - I haven’t read it, but I love the movie adaptation. As I understand it though the movie took liberties with the source material and differed in key respects.

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