Oddly when it came time to negotiations, they somehow realized actually calling yourself a Decepticon, was not a good name for inspiring trust.

Worse....

Look I can name 3 products that are cheaper today than they were in 2025... Didn't you see that walmarts thanksgiving bundle was a few bucks less than before, and they only had to downsize everything, give half as much food, and replace name brands with store brands. Your just cherry picking by talking about the 90% of things that are more expensive, and how much your total grocery bill is. Also it's all Biden's fault inflation skyrocketed under him, and when I said I'd fix it on day 1, I meant day 1 of year 3.

Plus all that tarrif money is going to trickle down to you any minute now... we're just racking in so much money from the tarrifs they don't know what to do with it.

Amazing how much more consistant they never miss to redact people listed as co-conspirators... but so frequently miss the one thing they are actually supposed to be redacting

For once it's time to root for him... not to pull off the escape act.

I mean I'm not going to disagree that a blanket all old must go all young must stay approach. Obviously trading Bernie Sanders for Rick Santorum would not be a good move.

That being said what does need to be dealt with is incumbancy bias as a whole. IE no matter how shitty they've been, the effect is over and over again keep the same guy regardless of how good or bad he is until he chooses to retire or drops dead.

The approach should be "replace the people who haven't been looking out for their people".

While I can see even being an agent and enforcer... it's possible to be a good guy in desperate situation, no different than how I can see someone might turn to a mobster or gangster that way. Hell even the "If I don't do it, someone worse will take the job, I can at least do it with as much compasion as the job allows".

Those excuses kind of go out the window though when they start shooting a prone, disarmed, pepper sprayed guy. I can hate the organization, and note it has horrible training. Being desperate enough to join ice is one thing... however you'd think that would lead to being as non horrible as possible in the job. As not every ice incident leads to a shooting, it's still fair to say the ice agents that do shoot peaceful protestors are clearly the worse of the worse.

Honestly I somehow picture this spinning in 2 directions.

Maga's going to find a way to claim illegal immigrants infiltrated ICE, and that's the reason why there's violence now... so we need more ICE to deal with Illegals.

I wouldn't say that... there are indeed scams out there that aren't related to trump... at least not until the scammer gets caught and trump pardons him.

So would be more accurate to say on the ven diagram, the trump circle is completely inside of the scams circle, (though the scams circle is certainly bigger than the trump one).

Pretty sure the flow chart for identifying scams goes.

"Is trump in the name?" With yes leading to "it's a scam"

If they had spines, democrats would be running on "we shut down the government to protect all people from illegal searches under ice. Or to prevent constituents health insurance premiums from shooting up. Meanwhile the republicans shut down the government to protect only themselves from legal investigations".

That's because the joker never was in charge of the federal government.

That being said, I think joker as president would be a nice step up... he's chaotic as hell, but he hates indiscriminately, he explicitly will not work with nazi's (If I recall a crossover had him meet red skull, who he opposed the second he realized he was a real nazi).

agreed, honestly what I would really like someone to do if they are able, get a large enough sample size of ice enforcers names and run background checks. So we can demonstrate side by side the percentage of people with histories of violent offences and property crimes, next to the low percentage of illegal immigrants going out. On a practical level it's obvious how it will pan out, but posting things with "trust me bro".