[–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Had to look up Chat GPT's energy usage because you made me curious.

Seems like Open AI claims Chat GPT 4o uses about 0.34 Wh per "query." This is apparently consistent with third party estimates. The average Google search is about 0.03 Wh, for reference.

Issue is, "query" isn't defined, and it's possible this figure is the energy consumption of the GPUs alone, omitting additional sources that comprise the full picture (energy conversion loss, cooling, infrastructure, etc.). It's also unclear if this figure was obtained during model training, or during normal use.

I also briefly saw that Chat GPT 5 uses between 18-40 Wh per query, so 100x more than GPT 4o. The OP used GPT 5.

It sounds like the energy consumption is relatively bad no matter how it's spun, but consider that it replaces other forms of compute and reduces workload for people, and the net energy tradeoff may not be that bad. Consider the task from the OP - how much longer/how many more people would it take to accomplish the same result that GPT 5 and the lone author accomplished? I bet the net energy difference isn't that far from zero.

Here's the article I found: https://towardsdatascience.com/lets-analyze-openais-claims-about-chatgpt-energy-use/

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    This article essentually summarizes a report from China but doesn't give the report's title, authors, or web link. This whole article is hearsay without providing the source material.

    Also, why does it read like it was written by a middle schooler with zero technical understanding? You'd expect better quality from a website named "Interesting Engineering."

    "They send out photons whose quantum properties changes once they hit the stealth aircraft. This means that even the false signals generated by the aircraft would not be able to match the properties of the photons emitted by quantum radars."

    Like, what does that even mean? I would check the source material, but I can't because we're not told what it is.

    Is all journalism this bad these days?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I'm running a desktop with relatively new hardware. Amd 5900x CPU, AMD 7900 GRE GPU, 32 GB ram, plenty of space and good airflow for stable thermals.

    The freeze is definitely at least frozen desktop and mouse/keyboard. I also tried changing terminal sessions after a freeze tonight and this had no effect, so it's probably the whole system?

    Good idea with playing sound, I will try this on my next boot.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Thanks for the comment.

    It froze again tonight, I tried ctr+alt+del spam and nadda, no response.

    I have not tried changing tty ctrl+alt+fn, but I will in the next session. Same with REISUB (not sure what this is yet).

    My first guess for root cause was a ram leak, but my system monitor shows little activity when these crashes/freezes occur. Not that this is a perfect method of ruling this out, but my resource usage doesn't smell fishy at least.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    No red text from journalctl unfortunately. My last few sessions each end with different messages too. One is a KDE Connect warning, a few others echoing some commands I sent in the terminal, etc. No red errors.

    The system freezes permanently, requiring a reboot.

    I have an AMD GPU, and likely have OpenGL installed.

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    It started freezing maybe a month or two ago. It happens anytime between a few seconds after the OS loads, to hours or days later. I do not recall downloading anything around when this issue began that could be suspect.

    I've put off fixing this because I have no idea how to even begin troubleshooting it. Internet searches for "Linux freezes" returns practically countless potential problems.

    What are some recommendations? I have my root directory on a 30 GB partition separate from my home directory, which I think makes reinstalling my base image (Debian) easy without losing personal data, so that's an option. Maybe there's a system log file that would provide some insight?

    I'm Linux dumb so please teach me how to fish!

    I'll add that my Windows install (on a separate drive) doesn't freeze, and my Linux install is on a new Samsung drive that didn't report issues, so the problems unlikely hardware related.

    02:05 18OCT: Thanks for all the quick responses, a lot of helpful suggestions so far. I should clarify that "my computer freezes" means it is 100% unresponsive until it is rebooted. Ctrl+alt+del spam or changing terminal sessions when its frozen does not get a response. The last few entries in my most recent journalctl boot outputs are different from one another, and the I did not see any errors. For now, I'll boot a live USB and let it sit for while, see if it crashes again.

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