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[–] 2 points 5 months ago

Dead Internet Reality

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  • 17 comments in c/world@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Headline is slightly misleading. FB isn't hiring people specifically to do this; they have a program that pays "content creators", and these people fall under that label.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Unfortunately, one of the primary reasons disinformation spreads so readily is that authoritative sources are beholden to corporatized interests. e.g. the end-users have only the choice of which lies they prefer to listen to, while real truth is virtually nowhere to be found, at least in the sense that it is not among those messages being blasted out at people.

    Hrm, I suppose this could even be said to be a wider sense of the concept of "the Algorithm" (moar profits=good), even in the news article creation sense rather than the more typical news aggregation/social media meaning. In the latter, existing articles are selected in such a way as to maximize advertising sales, whereas in the former... pretty much identically the same, except a few things (notably titles) can be changed to better sell the content.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Why are there rarely counter-campaigns for all of these? Passivity of governments towards this is so weird. They occasionally mention banning social media and at the end just do nothing. Why not promote their views too.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The state and these governments serve the wealthy. Who manipulate the media against the people. Why would the states go against the people they serve. Whom to be clear when I say the people they serve I don't mean the people. I'm speaking about the wealthy.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Made me think of the quote I encountered this morning:

    Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.

    -- Bertrand Russell

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Yep, if resources were unlimited. Hording them would harm no one. But they aren't. For one person to have more, multiple people must have their liberties imposed upon by having less. The wealthy are by their very nature a violation of liberty. Not an expression of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    But currently establishment parties are losing ground to others (often right wing) so you‘d think they‘d come up with something, not directly to serve the people but to protect themselves. But they can’t and it’s likely because they don’t stand for anything other than status quo. Can’t survive in information age when you don’t have any message.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    There probably are information campaigns. But disinformation has a massive advantage because it doesn't need facts, you just need catchy slogans with no basis in reality. They spread much more easily.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Make the fine so gobsmacking that it hurts them enough to the point where they seriously ponder wether they’ll ever recover from that.

    Make the fine 60% of their annual global revenue. And enforce it to the fullest the laws allows. Make examples of them.

    Make the corporation, the moral entity, understand that allowing such practices will result in the moral equivalent of getting close to being mortally wounded when caught, or will be if they get hit again.

    This is how they will stop interfering.

    Otherwise, a "10 million settlement" merely becomes the operating cost of doing "business".

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Time to move the national debt to exclusively Alberta banks.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    They follow the American and Russian narrative: fragment your targets to make them weaker, then take them one by one. They do it in Europe as well.

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    [–] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    "What Meta is doing is it is incentivizing [users] to find issues that people believe in deeply, that people feel deeply aggrieved about, and to manipulate those audiences for profit. Meta has a responsibility to enforce its authenticity and monetization rules."

    Fine them until they do so. Lord knows we wont' block Meta.

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    Make the fine so gobsmacking that it hurts them enough to the point where they seriously ponder wether they’ll ever recover from that.

    Make the fine 60% of their annual global revenue.

    Make the corporation, the moral entity, understand that allowing such practices will result in the moral equivalent of getting close to being mortally wounded when caught, or will be if they get hit again.

    This is how they will stop.

    Otherwise, a "10 million settlement" merely becomes the operating cost of doing "business".

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    "... constant lying is not aimed at making people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore. A people that can no longer distinguish between truth and lies cannot distinguish between right and wrong... With such a people, you can do whatever you want." - Hannah Arendt, 1906-1975, German historian and philosopher

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    And the fucking morons won't ever come close to understanding that they're being manipulated.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Literally no, or rather I should say, if only that were the case!!

    The literal definition of the word moron is a mental age between 8-12, or in terms of IQ score between 51-70.

    Whereas propaganda can affect people with literal PhDs, trained in the craft of problem-solving and discernment of the true hidden behind many sometimes conflicting facts.

    Of course, I am aware that you meant the term more in the colloquial sense of "foolish or notably stupid person". But therein lies the danger due to such ambiguity.

    We should think of propaganda less dismissively imho, as in not something that mere morons would fall for, and rather as something that you or I and everyone we know or even do not know could easily fall for as well.

    Propaganda affects not merely morons (implication: we here are safe) but PEOPLE.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Strongly disagree.

    At this point, with basically everyone having internet access and a free 13 years of education, if you fall for this shit and go all in without even doing the slightest bit of looking into things..... you're a moron.

    I would bet 90% plus of separatists indeed fall into the 51-70 IQ range or lower.

    100 is average IQ. There are about 41.5 million people in Canada. By definition approximately 20,750,000 people have a below average IQ. Alberta is about 5 million. I don't how how many people are true separatists, but I think I've seen 20% being thrown around? That's 1 million.

    Not a stretch, at all, that almost all separatists are low IQ. Plenty of room on the left side of the bell curve for 1 million moron separatiats.

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  • 5 comments in c/technology@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 28 points 5 months ago

    this should tell you all you need to know about the movement, its not real. go out and vote the referendum down.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    That headline is misleading. Yes they are getting paid, but as part of engagement revenue. Just like Google, tiktok, Instagram, etc.

    Sad as hell that grifting using right wing propaganda is so profitable.

    And before you say I am defending meta here, I am not. It's a misleading headline, and participation in meta products is explicit support for these people, because YOU are paying for it by being the product being sold to advertisers.

    Corporations are evil, don't participate.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I predict that once the voting is done, we'll see headlines such as "Despite huge online positivity, Alberta separatism gets a no" and no one will be suprised

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Chiquita 2.0

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I guess if Canada wants to keep Alberta around, they should likely do something... considering it's their power grid and network, and province.

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  • 1 comment in c/canadapolitics@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Disappointing, but not surprising

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  • 1 comment in c/antisocialmedia@piefed.social view that post
    [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Alberta screaming for independence is like a toddler crying because he isn't allowed to touch a hot stove

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