One of the most common questions I hear from people considering an e-bike right now, during a period of soaring...

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[–] 29 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Every mile you ride a bike instead of driving a car is a mile that you don't have to pay for gas to travel. It's that simple. Doesn't work for everyone because some places are actually hostile to cyclists and are built exclusively for cars. But I used to ride a scooter on the highway 10 miles to get to work of the 5 times I've been hit by something, only one of them was on the dangerous part of the commute.

Still kicking ass carfree and laughing at the people who spend half their paychecks on gas and car payments and insurance and mechanic bills and toll bills and you get the idea.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I got an escooter almost a year ago. I did not use it a lot at first, but slowly I started to take it to the store more often. Then my wife got an in office job. I gave the scooter to her and ended up getting myself a larger one. I ride it all the time now. And now that we both have one we have started to go places together on them.

    We do both still have our cars, where we live (rural New Mexico) it would be fairly difficult for us to totally do away with them, plus I have not figured out how to transport our dogs with the scooters yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    How often are you transporting dogs, could you just pay someone (like a taxi driver) to do it when needed? Even if you have to offer extra for the dogs.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Every day. We take them to a hiking trail by the river every morning. And the vet is 54 miles away.

    As far as a taxi, that is 80 miles away.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I dream of moving somewhere where I don't need a car permanently. I used to live in a city where it was impossible to ride to a grocery store on a sidewalk or a bike lane and to cross the surrounding highways is literally impossible (unless you're sprinting across 10 lanes) without a car.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    The answer is obviously “yes.”

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago*

    "Can a vehicle that doesn't use gasoline as its propellant save you money on gasoline by not requiring you to buy gasoline?"

    My god, its like we are accelerating towards a singularity of pure stupidity

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I understand that isn't possible for everyone and/or everywhere, but the biggest saving is not even having a car in the first place. Not just the actual price of the car (and it's depreciation), but the monthly/yearly costs associated with owning one. Insurance, taxes, maintenance and possibly repairs.

    It has been a very long time since I actually owned one, but at least here (EU) it can easily be like 150€ a month and you haven't even driven a single kilometer. I'm pretty sure it's physically impossible for me to use up 150€ in electricity with an eBike in a month, and there isn't even any fuel accounted for.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I'd love to completely get rid of my car, but, alas, it would mean the end of my social life since the buses rarely run past 9 and the roads are too dangerous to cycle.

    One thing I think we could do, though, is move towards making those fixed expenses of car cost sensitive to mileage. For instance, lets mandate availability of insurance-per-mile instead of insurance-per-month; because the temptation to USE a car in a car-dominated infrastructure is pretty constant and severe.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Yeah that is where the largest savings can come from. Never learnt to drive because of the costs involved with car ownership. Couldn't afford it then and now I would rather buy something else. Could go on 4 cruise holidays a year with the money saved just by not having a car.

    Even the bus costs a fair bit compared to a bike, but still cheaper than owning a car. Sure, fuel to go to work might cost less than a bus ticket. But a bus ticket doesn't require me to buy a depreciating asset - well, other than enough clothes to not scare other passengers.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Keep in mind that the $17 figure is not per month. That is

    So in this example, the fuel savings alone are about $500 (€430) annually.

    Glad to see the article is not AI generated?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Sorry, but can someone point out why this isn't the dumbest most obvious article I've ever read?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago*

    Obviously? Who is dumb enough to think that is a question to ask.

    "How much am I likely to save by riding a bike" might be a better question to go for. For me, just as an alternative to the bus it's about £120 a month saved. Or enough to buy a couple of replacement bikes a year.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Depends entirely on how much you ride it...

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    So if you buy one and take it home and park it in the garage forever it's going to save you money? LOL

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    And if you want to go the pedantic route, the headline asks "can", not "does" an ebike save you money. So regardless, the answer is always Yes.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    6400km this year? Hmmmm. If I ride to work at least 300 days this year, that would rack up ~2700km. That's a 10min commute. I would have to go absolutely everywhere to hit that number.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    For me it's closer to 4000km a year just in commuting. Maybe up to 1000km from everything else at a push. Shops are closer and other bike rides are far less frequent than commuting to work is.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    Yes, I haven't bought gas in weeks! My tank is still full.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    That's a terrible title given Bettetidge's Law but at least the answer here is very obviously gonna be "it depends"

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago