A new report by Human Rights Watch argues that the compulsory use of Chinese as the primary language in schools in Tibet raises “serious concerns under international human rights law”.

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[–] 30 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Man, so much whataboutism.

How about we stop deliberately killing off cultures?

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  • [+] -22 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Except the only culture being killed off is a feudal theocracy.

    Tibetan is still taught in their schools, along with Chinese. HRW is a Zionist organization. OP is a serial Zionist-apologia poster from Isn'treal (just click through their post history). Their agenda is to post US/Zionazi propaganda only.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    "HRW is zionist organization", this is hilariously mistaken, HRW has been super critical of the Israeli gov, IDF and West Bank settlers for decades now: https://www.hrw.org/middle-east/north-africa/israel/palestine

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What I don't get about the CCP shills is why they think I would trust the Chinese government when I don't even trust my own government.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    The amount of people here using EXACTLY the same disgusting reasoning that 19th century Europeans used for genocide is... well disgusting.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It's an intrinsic feature of single-ethnicity hegemony, and is present in almost all forms of nationalism and most imperialism.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Look who found a dictionary today!

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    Am I in r/sino?

    Eradicating one culture deemed medieval and feudalistic and replacing it with a ethnosupremacist form of feudalist capitalism disguised in a pseudo-Maoist wrapper... Standard fare in the Pooh World where what the Hans are doing is "liberation". Not only that, the Tibetan plateau is like a smorgasbord for Mainlander corporations looking for rare-earth resources, so there comes the program of forced assimilation which is no more different from banishing all Palestinians from their lands.

    (BTW, Israel sold to China some several key technologies, including early-warning radar.)

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Resistance since the uprising of 1959 has persisted under the current Dalai Lama, a “potent force despite decades of propaganda, political crackdowns and education drives aimed at undermining his authority”, living in exile in India.

    What authority are they talking about? Are they arguing that education should not be offered and that instead theocratic leadership is what is most important when considering human rights? I think rather the real propaganda comes from the west in favour of a feudal theocracy.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I wouldn’t believe shit coming from human rights watch, people are being made stateless where I’m from and I haven’t heard a peep out of them. Current estimates look around 300k or so.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Why wouldn't you believe it? That only proves they have bias, not that they're lying. At worst it's no better than US, Russian, or Chinese state media. Which many happily accept. If there's a problem with the message counter the message, not the messenger.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Im saying they are driven by western interest and not actual human rights watch issues.

    Human rights apply to white people only and political issues that the west doesn’t agree on, this is what they have turned the UN to. Their credibility isn’t there.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I don't disagree that they are pointing out things for their own agenda. But just because someone has an agenda and points something out doesn't make it false. The fact that they haven't pointed out nor ever made claims about groups XY and z. Doesn't mean they lack credibility. They generally been correct when pointing out abuses of the groups they have pointed out. You're still attacking the messenger and cannot disprove the message.

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    I'm no fan of Zionists but what you are doing is attacking and attempting to discredit the source to distract from the message that they are trying to push.

    The story here is the attempted cultural genocide of the Tibetan people by the Chinese government. I come from a nation that has almost lost its language as a result of similar colonial cultural genocide. This issue may not be real or important to you but it is an attempt to destroy a nation's cohesion and identity.

    The real question for me is why are you trying to discredit an article on this, what is your agenda here Riverside?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I’m no fan of Zionists but what you are doing is attacking and attempting to discredit the source to distract from the message that they are trying to push.

    It cuts both ways. The source here is probably pushing this news to align with a certain (pro-American) narrative, likely with some amplifications along the way.

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  • [+] -12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It isn't cultural genocide to teach the only useful language in the region, while requiring the cultural language also be taught.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Cultural erasure is a form of genocide by most definitions.

    China is not just requiring the teaching of Mandarin, it is taking steps to eradicate the use of Tibetan and other non-Han languages.

    And yes, Western countries have done it too, and it's just as much a crime when they do it. For example, in Britain, children used to be punished for speaking Welsh or Gaelic in schools. The same happened with Catalan and Basque in Spain. Those are just two of many examples.

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  • [+] -13 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, because the message they're trying to push is "China bad" as a US-gvt and Zionist controlled "NGO"

    Yes but are they lying? Is it not true that China is unilaterally changing the primary language to Chinese for schools in Tibet?

    Yes, and I'd take it seriously if it was real and not fabricated propaganda

    Why do you say it is not real, human rights watch is just one source, a quick search leads to several sources you can find yourself. This is also not a new issue, there is information on the promotion of Mandarin over Chinese in Tibetan schools going back years. Just because you do not accept what is happening does not make it propagand

    Is China the aggressor in your instance, or are you projecting Western colonialist history onto China

    Colonialism is still colonialism, doesn't matter if it's Chinese or western it's all the same. Erasure of cultural identity and especially language is always a big part.

    And if it were important to you, you'd be doing activism

    I don't need you to tell me what I should be doing buddy.

    I haven't seen you do activism about, such as Breton or Occitan in France,

    To be fair you haven't seen me do anything, I am an anonymous internet stranger. For all you know I was marching the streets of Rennes in support of my brothers there.

    This is also "whataboutism" on your part, one of the lowest forms of rhetoric. Up your game and stick to the point at hand please.

    is, TODAY, the official language of the Tibet Autonomous Region of China. In the 1950s, there were about a million speakers of Tibetan in China, today there are about 6 million.

    I see that you capitalised the word today, either you understand the concept of time or are, like Donald Trump, a fool who capitalises words for no reason. You should also then be able to understand that this measure is meant to reduce the amount of native Tibetan speakers going forwards in time. You seem to be trying to use the fact that there are more Tibetan speakers today than in 1950 as proof that China is not trying to reduce native Tibetan speakers in the future? How does this make sense in your thick head buddy? Does this type of argument ever work on people?

    Have you ever considered that maybe the Zionists, the USA AND China are all bad? All are shitty imperial colonists.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Gasp, New York City! I only get my news straight from Beijing! Everybody else is a zionist! /s

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  • [+] -12 points 6 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Everyone who uses Isntrael unironically can just be disregarded

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  • [+] -18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    HRW only cares for human rights violations in certain countries. Fuck this imperialistic apparatus.

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    [–] -4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Ghaza and Lebanon woukd like to have a work with the HRW.

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