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EU made email | Soverin (blog.sivak.eu)
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If you are interested in switching from Gmail to EU provider and were hesitating because you weren't sure how to approach it this post is just for you!

I am describing my path where I switched to Soverin email provider and talking some details about desktop and mobile clients.

Soverin is EU based provider with servers in Europe, high privacy and years of experience.

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[โ€“] 11 points 6 months ago

I switched to posteo. 1eur / month, does the job. Also use Thunderbird on mobile.

If people plan on switching my recommendation is not to do it all at once. Create the new email account and then slowly when you use accounts or buy something online point to the new account. It's also a good idea since you start a fresh email account to not give your email to just any random websites or services. For this I use firefox email relay that I also pay 1$ per month.

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    [โ€“] 6 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    I mean there are tons of options for EU hosted mail services.
    Germany has gmx.net and web.de, France has orange.fr, Belgium proximus.be, Denmark has one.com and Sweden loopia.se just to touch on bigger local options.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    Are there any free options among them? I donโ€™t use email, and if Iโ€™d do, I think Iโ€™d rather self-host. I donโ€™t care about deliberately deliverability (sorry, phone typo), if Iโ€™d be in contact with the same people

    But Iโ€™d appreciate having some decent mailbox to receive emails. I donโ€™t mind if itโ€™d be like 100 Mb or something, I think Iโ€™d keep Gmail just for spam social networks I donโ€™t use anyway.

    Or does any decent option means itโ€™s paid, even if โ‚ฌ1 a month.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Iโ€™m also interested to know if there are any self-hosted options for mail, I donโ€™t see any difference between using the local alternatives vs. bigcorpos; they still own the data and weโ€™re paying them to do so

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    For self-hosted, Iโ€™ve heard round cube is nice. We use it at work. Itโ€™s okay. Web client is ugly last time I checked, but everyone has their clients, so thereโ€™s no real difference to any other email provider, except the company controls it entirely.

    Iโ€™d deploy Round Cube for myself and family, but I have very little motivation to do so. I email some internet people very infrequently, and thatโ€™s pretty much it. Some services send me emails, but they are mostly spam, I created a separate email for people (and I have like one email a week at best), and I really donโ€™t care about that other email for spam. So, I donโ€™t know, I donโ€™t feel any real need to self-host.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 6 months ago*

    Roundcube is the webmail client (IMAP client) component of selfhosting an email server. You could use it together with postfix (SMTP Server) and dovecot (IMAP and POP3 server) to put together a simple mailstack. Use opendkim and opendmarc to improve your deliverability and make it harder to impersonate your mail domain. Add spamassassin to get rid of some spam.
    Another option is to look into mailcow or mailinabox, they deliver a completed package built around the above.
    Do everything right and still see google and microsoft send you straight to spam because you don't have enough email traffic to be considered legitimate (or important) enough to care about.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 6 months ago

    Free means you're the product.
    Paid means that you might be the product and cheap means I expect you to be the product.
    My recommendation would be to read the tos and look for their data gathering and analytics info before choosing a vendor.

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    • [โ€“] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What's the current assessment of protonmail? It seems top tier to me.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 6 months ago

    I was using it and I moved away. A combination of needing to use their app instead of a normal email client, irritating number of screens and frustratingly slow loading of the webmail page and the ceo comments that could be seen as praising trump made me look at other providers. I went with malibox.org and have 0 regrets.

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    [โ€“] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    I saw Soverin too when searching, but I decided to go for mailo for 12 euros per year. Client on is not good and so I went with thunderbird. www.mailo.com

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  • [โ€“] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Are you an ad? Who the hell pays 12 euros for mail when the German mailbox is like a pound a month

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