This has always been one of those, “why the fuck don’t we do this already?” things. Also, NighthawkInLight has a video on how we could make self cooling buildings with infrared cooling paint. https://youtu.be/N3bJnKmeNJY
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Wasn't there grass roofs something like 10 years ago?
Grass roofs have been around for ages, but they require a lot of structural planning to deal with weight, water, and when they inevitably have to be replaced, they are more of a hassle. Whereas paint probably just needs to be repainted, or reflective metal roofs last longer while not being too hard to fix (need a radiant barrier, but still easier to work on).
This seems as good a place as any to ask this question that has recently been on my mind.
Would a spaced secondary layer act as a sort of barrier to the direct heating effect of sunlight hitting the roof, effectively shading the entire thing and reducing the load on an interior AC?
I understand insulation exists, but keeping the largest upward facing surface of the building from direct sunlight feels like a no-brainer to me.
Yes! What you're describing is basically a ventilated roof system (somtimes called a "cold roof") and it's super effective - the air gap creates thermal break that can reduce heat transfer by up to 45% compared to direct-contact roofing.
A shade structure? Yes, a shade structure will dramatically reduce load on the AC of whatever is under it.
Would that help the larger city climate? Well sure, if it's trees. A giant umbrella over the top of a skyscraper? Who knows
I have to admit I was really thinking of houses - it seems to me a small expense for such a potentially substantial improvement, especially if done at construction time.
(None of this is to disagree with the idea of using lighter/more reflective roofing materials, FWIW.)
Edit - and I don't mean a giant umbrella or similar, I feel like a typical home could easily just have a structure the size of the roof and spaced a few inches out from it.
That's called an attic. And yes, attics do help the floors below get less warm.
When you have an attic, you can go further by insulating the roof - this keeps the warm day air out, and during the night you can open windows to let the cool night air in. Historically roof insulation was done with thick layers of thatch, though light-weight synthetic alternatives are more common in modern construction. A well-insulated roof won't let through any appreciable amount of heat.
Then as things get hotter, build the roof taller, allow for natural air flow to dissipate the heat, and finally put the building on stilts so air can flow under it.
Retrofitting existing buildings to have space for good insulation is expensive, especially with the atrocities the US has been building in suburbs for the past 80 years.
Yes, I have an attic. Through it runs my AC ducts which are insulated pretty poorly from what I can tell. And yes, additional insulation above the ceiling of the interior spaces. The attic itself is at deadly temperatures pretty much all summer long, because attic ventilation does not adequately clear the heat. This has been true of every house I've lived in since I was a kid. (Which is a lot of houses because I'm old)
It's difficult for me to imagine that permanently shading the roof and leaving an air gap above it would not improve things in addition to the presence of insulation and the attic itself, since it would lower temps in the attic. Regardless of the presence of insulation, reducing the delta between the attic temp and interior temp seems like it would be a win to me. My question, ultimately, is how much would a spaced layer above the roof impact this. To me, it feels like it would impact that delta a lot, but maybe not.
Through it runs my AC ducts which are insulated pretty poorly from what I can tell
If that includes the warm duct, that's an electric space heater with extra steps. So not surprising it would get hot in there.
It’s difficult for me to imagine that permanently shading the roof and leaving an air gap above it would not improve things in addition to the presence of insulation and the attic itself
The question is whether it would improve the situation more or less than spending an equal amount of value on building houses with taller roofs and thicker insulation, or insulating the AC ducts, or allowing the hot air to cycle out at night, or something else. If you only compare it to not having it, of course it will have some benefit.
Has anyone done studies to see if placing solar panels on the roof has a similar reflective effect?
Wasn't this debunked? I remember something about African tribes wearing dark clothes in the desert and a conclusion that the color doesn't make a difference, it's all about wearing loose clothing etc...
Loose dark clothing encourages airflow. Covering up prevents sunburn and direct solar heating.
For buildings, airflow can cool them too. But it doesn't need to be done through dark roofs or dark exterior walls. And buildings could have more sunshades and awnings, and smaller windows to prevent solar heat gain.
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