Compared with its peers, America overall does an unusually poor job of solving killings. The murder clearance rates of other rich nations, including Australia, Britain and Germany, hover in the 70s, 80s and even 90s

And yes, its because the cops are racist and break trust with communities

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[–] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bet if you subdivide the murder cases solved by victim's income level you'll find something way more interesting, NYT.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    That will embolden criminals about as much as the president publicly committing crimes on TV and getting away with it

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    You should buy more tanks for the police. Or fighter jets, you can bomb murderers from fighter jets, right?

    Or just buy a bunch of D9s and demolish the lives of all the people you don't like like the IDF does.

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    Is incorrectly labeling someone as legally dead considered a crime? Like, equivalent to manslaughter or murder depending on intent?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    "The murder clearance rates of other rich nations, including Australia, Britain and Germany, hover in the 70s, 80s and even 90s"

    For comparison it says the clearance rate (solved or resulting in an arrest) in the US is 58%

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wonder how much of that difference can be attributed to gun violence. I'm not anti gun, but few countries have gun laws as lax as the US so there's a larger number committed by guns which may be more difficult to solve. The sale of guns themselves are not always tracked, and gun violence is something that can be done from afar and not leave as much evidence. We're also quite a large country with very populous cities. Berlin has 3.7 million people and is the most populous EU city. NYC has over twice that. Much easier to solve crime in a town of a few hundred people than in large cities, which the US has more of.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    The fucking pigs are too busy harassing the general populace and being bigoted assholes.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    "Her, those minorities ain't gonna oppress themselves."

    -Cops

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Maybe another billion dollars for police to jerk off in their cruisers and collect overtime at the expense of all other municipal budgets will help!" - Political discourse in this fucking country

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago

    Problem is that what we dont need is beat cops who go around harassing people because their skin is too dark. What we actually need is detectives capable of catching killers and fences, but the incentives are to go harass minorities

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    What's needed is a program that analyzes and pinpoints the conditions that create violent behavior and uproots them (for example, living in scarcity with no economic security and feeling marginalized, having no empathetic communal support system, etc.)

    (cc: James Gilligan)

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    probably about the gap is murders done by american police

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    This is why copaganda is/was important. (The hundreds of cop/detective shows that almost always solve the case.)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    How would they know how many murderers it is if they get away? What if its just one very very sneaky murderer??

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Don't tempt me, lol

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  • A city guy told me about this. The bodies often are found but not enough resources go into finding the perpetual.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Learning this statistic does not make murder more appealing. Guess I'm not a psycho. And thank god for that, you know? It seems like it would be such a hassle.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Not defending America in any way but these stats can be manipulated just by not taking cases that seem unsolvable or refusing to call them murder.

    Edit: As an example, Japan closes 95% of the murder cases it opens. There is a 99% conviction rate on accused murders. Yakuza exists, so these numbers don't add up.

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  • I remember some news articles that many suicides in Japan are actually murders. There was a teenage sumo wrestler who was found with multiple slash wounds across his face and cigarette burns on his tights and they decided it was... a coronary...

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Before anyone goes off and murders a hated family member just realize that most of those sorts of murders get solved. It's the drive-by, gangland sort of shit that goes unsolved.

    If you murder your wife they will catch you.

    edit: and it's pretty funny they call a 58% clearance rate "nearly half go unsolved" and laud a 60% clearance rate in another unidentified country. Fucking NYT. Yes our police are a problem but you don't have to make them look worse than they are.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Absolutely, the NYT is way too hard on cops. You said it, brother!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    OK, sure. But this is just "America Bad! Australia Good!"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, there are also some very bad ways to raise clearance rate, just look at Japan. The premises are very flawed

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What does Japan do to clear murders you're talking about?

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