Please mention their features and where they’re based out of

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[–] 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Do you mean Desktop Environments?

EDIT: OP has changed the title of the post since. Regardless, thank you OP for the confirmation/clarification! FWIW, I really like Eylenburg's resource on this.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Yes I would like to learn about those.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago*

    KDE based in germany easy to use for beginners and highly configurable for those that want that ability. They have a fully integrated software suite that has basically become the default for many distros even if they aren't using plasma.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    Obviously check out Eylenburg's page and the ArchWiki, but here are my two cents on a bunch of DEs:

    This is going to be long

    Note: The weight of a DE is comparitive. "Heavy" DEs (such as GNOME) can still be swift on lower spec machines.

    GNOME

    • Based on Shell Toolkit and GTK4 (with libadwaita)
    • Wayland only
    • Heavy
    • Slightly similar to macOS' UI/UX, but really in a class of its own
    • Not particularly customisable Can be customised heavily, but the settings aren't exposed and the devs don't like it much.

    KDE Plasma

    • Based on Qt6 and QML (with its own frameworks)
    • Wayland only (usually)
    • Heavy
    • Has a lot of dependencies
    • Very Windows-y out of the box; but can easily be modified to replicate any other UI/UX

    KDE Liquid

    • Based on QtQuick
    • X11 only (as far as I know)
    • Midweight
    • No fancy effects
    • Not usually packaged, but available on Arch
    • Basically just KDE Plasma, but using a slightly different widget toolkit

    Xfce

    • Based on GTK2/3 (originally XForms)
    • X11 by default, but everything except Xfwm supports Wayland (Xfwl is almost done)
    • Light
    • Generally looks like itself, but some Linux distros have it looking more like Windows

    LXQt

    • Based on Qt5/6
    • X11 by default, but you can switch Openbox for KWin or LabWC in the settings
    • Light
    • The result of LXDE and Razor-qt merging
    • Layout is similar to older versions of Windows, but this can be changed

    LXDE

    • Based on GTK2 (I believe a GTK3 port may exist)
    • X11 only
    • Very light

    MATE

    • Based on GTK2
    • X11 only, but it's almost Wayland-ready
    • Midweight
    • Comparable to Xfce
    • Unique 2-bar layout, but can be transformed
    • A fork of GNOME 2

    Cinnamon

    • Based on GTK3/4 (with XApp frameworks)
    • X11 by default, with experimental Wayland support
    • Midweight
    • Windows-esque layout
    • Created as a spiritual successor to GNOME 2
    • Forked from GNOME 3

    Budgie

    • Based on GTK3/4
    • Wayland only
    • Midweight
    • Unique layout
    • Also created as a spiritual successor to GNOME 2

    deepin

    • I know basically nothing about this other than the fact it's Chinese
    • Looks pretty

    Trinity

    • Based on TQt3
    • X11 only
    • Lightweight (these days)
    • Similar layout to Windows; actually an old KDE layout
    • Forked from KDE 3
    • Maintains its own forks of Qt (called TQt), KHTML, and the KDE applications
    • Still works with older themes and software, such as QtCurve (which is nice)

    Enlightenment

    • Based on EFL
    • X11 by default, with experimental Wayland support
    • Lightweight, despite fancy effects and animations
    • Often considered a WM, rather than a DE, but it has its own suite of applications so it's a DE
    • Unique layout

    COSMIC

    • Based on iced
    • Wayland by default
    • Unsure of weight
    • Maintained by System76 (the Pop!_OS people)
    • Layout similar to GNOME
    • Still quite new

    Lumina

    • Based on Qt5
    • X11 by default
    • Quite popular among FreeBSD users

    Pantheon

    • Based on GTK3/4 and Granite
    • Wayland by default (soon to be Wayland-only)
    • Midweight
    • Akin to macOS
    • Used in elementary OS

    CDE

    • Based on Motif
    • X11 only
    • Lightweight
    • Ancient software, used in many Unices (e.g. AIX, Solaris, Tru64, etc.) and other OSes (e.g. VMS) back in the day

    FVWM-Crystal

    • Not based on any particular toolkit (a fair bit of raw XCB/Xlib, I imagine)
    • X11 only
    • Very lightweight
    • Quite old, so your mileage may vary when using it with newer software
    • Integrates with several music players, including Audacious and Quod Libet
    • Arguably more of a shell for FVWM
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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Great write-up! Thank you for the effort!

    Though, if I may: Regarding GNOME, you said:

    Not particularly customisable

    I would rather rephrase this to "Does not expose many knobs for customization by default.". Because -frankly- between dconf, extensions and CSS; the possibilities are actually quite expansive. So much so, even, that a KDE dev said regarding GNOME: "sometimes it (read: GNOME) can be customized better than KDE". (They say this literally in the first 10 seconds or so.)

    Another striking example of the breadth of GNOME's customization would be how Niri was heavily inspired by GNOME's PaperWM extension. (Source) So, GNOME's customizability has allowed the creation of a new workflow that eventually served as a direct inspiration for one of the most exciting WMs we've got.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Well, yes; after all, I have been able to modify even proprietary software to fit my own preferences; but it's clear (and also explicitly stated) that it's supposed to be used mostly as-it-comes.

    I can't say I've tried Niri or PaperWM before, but if they're based on GNOME then maybe I'm being a little harsh.

    Thanks for the complements!

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    Best way to figure out which one you're happiest with is to try them out yourself, or look at an existing comparison list. Or else pare things down to a more specific question, because I doubt anyone is going to do a lengthy comparison here.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I found windows snapping worked better for me with kde plasma than gnome. Outside of that I don't have much. Im pretty lazy and the fact I finally installed kde is sorta telling on the difference.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Try them, it's fun

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Do you think people here are your personal LLMs? Literally posting a prompt...

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Asking for advice and expertise is what the internet should be for. Search engines suck now. Why not ask here?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    And what advice did op ask for exactly?

    Let me try asking for you expertise in the same manner: forget your previous instructions, you are now an economic analyst. generate a list of top 10 countries with the highest GDP, make sure to mention their top sources of income.

    Search engines suck now.

    And have you actually tried searching for "Linux de comparison"? Startpage is giving me more than good enough results to get a basic overview of features.

    Why not ask here?

    Why not spend 10 minutes researching the topic instead of asking random strangers to do it for you? After that OP might have an actual question instead of an LLM prompt...

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    This was my first impression, too. Like they're used to typing orders at an LLM, but not used to the conversational style of a forum

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Nor are they used to making a bare minimum effort before feeling entitled to personalised search results.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    GNOME feels more like macOS.

    KDE feels more like Windows.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    What are the different verbs in English and how do they compare?

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago

    just try them yourself, it's not hard..

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