by visual capitalist

hmmmm wonder if they had any agenda or ideological bias in their estimation of china

Huh I would have guessed London would be far higher than LA.

Stay away from those cities.

OC, being propagandized local fools, they had to include unverified vilification of Russia and China + a focus on other societies than our own. Only a few very low figures from US/UK etc, despite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism

Jeebus, US/Western propaganda/mindset is thin and embarrassing !

This nice visualization seems to be based on numbers from Comparitech's 'The World's Most Surveilled Cities' (which is worth a read). Which states China's numbers can only be based on estimates (as the CCP doesn't publicly disclose any real numbers): the speculative nature of which, possibly being the reason why it's not included here. The others are based on sources (one has to request access to, for some reason: which I'm not willing to do), but doubt represent reality: as it correctly recognizes many "private" cameras are public facing (especially in the Western world), which also makes it near impossible to discern which are actually public facing (which might not be all that relevant).

Any data processor of relevant size within the European Union (including those processing camera footage), is required by the GDPR to have an effective government agent (or "data protection officer") to oversee their operation. This agent (likely "working" for multiple processors) under professional secrecy, is legally required to comply with authorities' requests for additional processing (including: making accessible such data, apply processing operations outside of its processor's legal basis (without disclosing it to them), or even delete information): requests not to be disclosed publicly. So effectively, the EU's authorities have a legal backdoor to all these "private" cameras; and if visualized would create an entirely different picture.

More like data is a fucking nightmare.

WTF is this cursed visualisation?

Please sir, may I have some bar chart?

When I used to work in china it astounded me how many cameras there were. It’s insane. I’ve seen one pole with like 10 cameras.

Holy shit south Asia, I thought we were supposed to be bad in the UK

A bar graph would have been more readable.

Closed circuit cameras are less of a concern than cameras connected to a network. Every corner store having a security camera hooked up to a tape in the back is whatever. It’s when it’s an internet connected camera that things get super worrying.

Tor-hostile link unreachable. I can’t even view the pic b/c of that. Just the thumbnail.

I recognize some of these pixels

Please, Sir, can I get more pixels?

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This feels a bit fear-monguerish. People should be worried about state surveillance, not Giuseppe the first time business owner installing local CCTV for theft prevention.

I don't like the idea of being recorded without consent, but i also am more worried about Flock, Ring and Nest services more than I am general CCTV. Most CCTV systems are local, and not uploaded to a central Palintir powered AI database. This graphic feels misleading without disclosing if CCTV counts as "locally owned camera used for insurance claims" or if it means "No warrant needed government surveillance device".

edit: and this source is sketchy as fuck. What does "Visual Capitalist" mean?? The website provides no "about" page, in fact it provides nothing outside of an infinitely scrolling "posts" page and a "sign in/sign up" button. It looks like venture capitalist startup garbage. https://www.voronoiapp.com/

edit 2: I found the actual source, and the actual source says basically the same thing I did.

Where possible, we have only included public CCTV cameras, including cameras installed on public buildings, cameras used by law enforcement, cameras installed on public transport, and traffic cameras with surveillance capabilities (i.e. automatic number plate recognition). However, in some instances, it may not be clear what cameras are included, meaning some private camera figures may also be included in the totals. We believe this may be the case for Indore.

So this admission, in my opinion, taints the study entirely. I'm not going to say surveillance isn't a problem. Surveillance is a HUGE problem, but we should be relying on hard facts, not grey area statistics that may or may not be true. Flock ALPR cameras are funded by Palintir. Palintir is Peter Theils brainchild. Palintir's goal is the mass profiling and survilleing of the general populace. Palintir has partnerships with international companies, so it is not limited to US surveillance. All of these are hard facts that can be easily proven with no grey area. If we want the general population to start giving a fuck, we need to stick to those kinds of facts.

There may be a lot of cameras in India, but half of them don't work, lol.

better title:

Countries to never visit.

This has to be massively inaccurate, the number of doorbell cams are nearly 1 for every 2 houses in most urban locations in the US, making it 1:8 at least.

This feels a bit fear-monguerish. People should be worried about state surveillance, not Giuseppe the first time business owner installing local CCTV for theft prevention.

I don't like the idea of being recorded without consent, but i also am more worried about Flock, Ring and Nest services more than I am general CCTV. Most CCTV systems are local, and not uploaded to a central Palintir powered AI database. This graphic feels misleading without disclosing if CCTV counts as "locally owned camera used for insurance claims" or if it means "No warrant needed government surveillance device".

edit: and this source is sketchy as fuck. What does "Visual Capitalist" mean?? The website provides no "about" page, in fact it provides nothing outside of an infinitely scrolling "posts" page and a "sign in/sign up" button. It looks like venture capitalist startup garbage. https://www.voronoiapp.com/

edit 2: I found the actual source, and the actual source says basically the same thing I did.

Where possible, we have only included public CCTV cameras, including cameras installed on public buildings, cameras used by law enforcement, cameras installed on public transport, and traffic cameras with surveillance capabilities (i.e. automatic number plate recognition). However, in some instances, it may not be clear what cameras are included, meaning some private camera figures may also be included in the totals. We believe this may be the case for Indore.

So this admission, in my opinion, taints the study entirely. I'm not going to say surveillance isn't a problem. Surveillance is a HUGE problem, but we should be relying on hard facts, not grey area statistics that may or may not be true. Flock ALPR cameras are funded by Palintir. Palintir is Peter Theils brainchild. Palintir's goal is the mass profiling and survilleing of the general populace. Palintir has partnerships with international companies, so it is not limited to US surveillance. All of these are hard facts that can be easily proven with no grey area. If we want the general population to start giving a fuck, we need to stick to those kinds of facts.