If I've kicked it I don't see any reason my organs can't help someone else
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Opt-out is the best way. Greatly increases the supply of available organs but allows people not to participate if they don't want to.
Opt out seems fair.
You're dead. You don't need whatcha got anymore.
When I'm dead it won't fucking matter what happens to my body because I'm dead. I won't be there to care. If my body parts help people then that's great!
take 'em, i ain't using 'em anymore!
I think that’s great. It’s incredibly selfish to not be an organ donor. The whole, “They will let me die to give my organs to someone important” argument is ludicrous.
I even wonder if the opt out is reasonable. I understand being sad, but "go ahead and die, I want worms to eat my {kid's, wife's, husband's} kidney" is a weird thing to (implicitly) say.
It is as easy as going to any doctor and having it added to your file. No reason, just "I don’t want that"
I think people should be able to decide what happens to their remains after they die. I'm fine with automatic registration and the ability to opt out.
If you raid my colony, your left kidney, right lung, and liver are mine. One Lemmings opinion.
Organ donation just makes sense. If my organs can help someone else after I’m done with them then why not? What doesn’t make sense is that in states/places where abortion isn’t legal, corpses have more bodily autonomy than pregnant women
My take is take what you want. I'll be dead and will have no need for the organs.
I know it's irrational, but there is a tiny voice in the back of my head going "what if the ancient Egyptians were right, and you'll need your liver or eyes or whatever in the afterlife?" even though currently right now living and breathing I couldn't tell you what my liver does for me other than I need it to stay living.
I'm having trouble with trusting such a system...
I mean if a politician or some rich dude is in need of an organ that you happen to have... I don't trust the doctors to not just... let you die...
Like in House of Cards...
I don't trust it here in the US, I mean look at the politics.... so corrupt.
And I definitely-definitely don't trust this for China... the way my parents decribe their interactions with doctors in Mainland China... like the most sketchy people you could meet... I mean... these are the heathcare workers that would perform abortions against the mother's will if the government told them to... (during the One Child Policy stuff...) so yeah they'd happily let you die if it meant some government official can get their organ. Nope. There's no way people there would trust it... so much 碰瓷 ("broken vase" scams), low-trust society...
For the most part, I'm unconcerned. Especially in a country where organ donation is opt-out, there are plenty enough people dying already; the rich don't need to kill me specifically for my liver. There's another one floating around somewhere out there. Any potential corruption would take the form of the rich and powerful placing themselves at the top of the recipient list, a problem which is also reduced if organ donation is opt-out—more organs floating around means that even if the rich and powerful put themselves at the top of the list, more people will still get the organs they need.
Re: China, that's a different situation entirely. I don't think those forced abortions were opt-in or opt-out. The Chinese government doesn't seem to give its subjects many opts at all
The best argument I have against that happening is that the people saving lives are not the people who manage the donor list. If you're in a car accident and paramedics arrive, they see an injured person, and they treat the injuries. They don't see the list of who needs an organ, they probably don't even check your ID until theyve stabilized you. They will take you to the hospital, where someone else will attempt to stabilize you, or determine that you cannot be saved. And even then, they'll send you to someone else to harvest the organs, and send those to someone else who determines where they are needed.
There is no single person who decides if your organs are worth more than your life. And if one person does try to make that call, there are a lot of others involved they may not let it happen, and acting out of procedure will raise a lot of questions.
Okay fine maybe for the US where the free press still seems to be okay (barely limping through)
In China... all info is controlled. They can sweep irregularities under the rug. Censorship...
I mean look at how they handled covid... they tried to jail doctors who tried to blow the whisle.
So I still wouldn't okay an "opt out" system for China until they start becoming more transparent.
I would be totally fine with it.
The problem is that it is factually worth a lot of money. Saving a life, either through an organ or by blood donations because they're needed for surgery, is nearly impossible to evaluate.
And lots of people need stuff that isn't blood or organs. If I need a car, or place to live and someone in society dies and has a car or a place to live and that's not being given to me, but instead it's turned into cash and assets.
That's asymmetric.
Now I'm not saying I'm entitled that society should just give me everything I want. So I wouldn't call it "unfair".
But on the other hand, giving away organs and blood, completely for free, is a bit much.
That's why I'm against it.
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