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[–] 106 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Did I get this right: Country waging war calls a union warmongers for not waging war together with other country waging war?

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  • [–] [S] 64 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Against their own ally, who they are helping wage war.

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  • [–] 71 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Russia wants Europe to get caught up in the Middle East so they won't be able to support Ukraine. That's all it is.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago*

    And then after Ukraine.. probably Poland. Who knows.

    These guys never stop.

    Some seem to think Israel only wanted Gaza. Russia only wants Ukraine..

    And then they will chill out.

    Nope.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Not all. Russia is also supremely interested in NATO breaking up. So sowing dissension between NATO members (mainly US and all the rest) is also the point.

    Trump is of course doing very well all on his own in attempting to reach that goal, but Russia will stoke that fire until it finally happens.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    No, they want the oil price high so they can get foreign-currency earnings they can use to buy weapons and keep their economy ticking over. And Netanyahu and Trump delivered that.

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  • [–] 35 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    "The masks are off," Dmitriev wrote. "U.K. and EU warmongers are showing how deeply anti-Trump they really are. They tried to hide it for a long time, but now everyone can see it."

    State-level trolling.

    At the same time, Dmitriev's comments were widely seen as effectively encouraging additional countries to join military action against Tehran — one of Moscow's key strategic partners.

    Except it may not be contradictory in terms of goals. Russia does not want the EU to be a US vassal. Not for altruistic reasons but because it'll be easier to restore trade with an unaligned EU. At the same time Russia might (perhaps correctly) consider that NATO cannot reopen the strait given how trivial and cheap it is for Iran to keep it closed. The longer the war lasts, the longer the strait stays closed, the more everyone needs Russian fossil fuels. And at the same time any naval assets that enter the strait are likely going down, which would diminish the naval capabilities of these actors as well as their military power projection.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    > "The masks are off," Dmitriev wrote. "U.K. and EU warmongers are showing how deeply anti-Trump they really are. They tried to hide it for a long time, but now everyone can see it."

    So…what are they really saying here? This war is about being loyal to Trump? That other countries are either for this war or against Trump? Are they speaking to Trump when they say this, so he frames it this way? Since when do leaders from other countries need to show deference to Trump? Since when is he leader of Earth that requires compliance?

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago

    accused European leaders of being "anti-Trump"

    As they - and anyone else with a brain and/or conscience- should be by this point, if not way earlier.

    I sincerely hope at least one EU leader responds with something like "Why, yes, we are. Thank you for noticing."

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    Now I'm sure putin actually encouraged trump to do this.

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    They'll really say any damned thing to muddy the waters, won't they? Fucking nihilist parasites.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Dude looks like he was irradiated at Chernobyl

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Russia is too busy getting their ass handed to them by Ukraine, a country about ten times smaller than they are. They should shut the fuck up on matters of war.

    Or anything, really.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Ukraine's population is about 40M. Russia's is 143M. Still a big difference, but not an order of magnitude different.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    According to your stats, by population Russia is over 3x the size of Ukraine. According to land mass Russia's 17 million km² vs Ukraine's .6 million km² is 28x larger.

    Regardless of the metric, it's a big difference.

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