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[–] 130 points 8 months ago (1 child)

Maybe they should move GDC somewhere less terrible for a couple years. Let Japan have it or something.

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  • [–] 78 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Given how big the LGBTQ+ community is in the games industry, they really need to host this in Vancouver or Toronto until things settle down in the USA.

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  • [–] 53 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    probably due to the large multi-building venue that they have to host the conference and the experience the staff have hosting it there.

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  • [–] 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Which company or indie dev would want to pay through the ass for the very real risk of having their people kidnapped by ICE and shoved in a concentration camp for weeks or even months, without any kind of (functional) appeal process?

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  • [–] 89 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    "I make video games for a living and have absolutely never said anything problematic or polarizing on social media. Can't wait to cruise through airport security and immigration without a care in the world."

    ~ Nobody, Ever

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  • [+] 33 points 8 months ago (9 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    So, are you a propaganda bot or are you just totally ignorant of the real world?

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [+] -12 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    I have been edging A LOT lately!

    But, no. Just someone who enjoys pointing out the hypocrisy of people on social media. I call it like I see it. Almost every president over the past 45 years has been a warhawk.

    I don't choose sides.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago*

    Hes not been in power for over a decade, cant be in power again and left without incident and not in the epstien files. Obama derangement syndrome much. Bad faith and stupid

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago

    It isn't safe.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago

    the ticket is 500-1000 usd anyway. like wtf lol.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    World cup teams should also skip the usa

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  • [+] 46 points 8 months ago (23 children)
  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    When I wanted to visit the uNazied States of america the guns being prevalent wasn't an issue. I'd have to be very unlucky to get shot whilst visiting the attractions I wanted to see.

    Now, admittedly, it was a long time ago when I thought about visiting, and it was more like a "if I ever win the lottery then I'll visit xxxx place" type thing.
    Then their 2016 elections came along and ever since then there's no fucking chance I'd ever go. You couldn't pay me to visit.
    What's the point in having loads of cash if I'm being detained and locked up for who knows how long, and then being deported to an El Salvadorian death camp!!

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (20 children)

    I'm not gonna say gun violence isn't a problem here but...this reminds me of rightwingers going on about violence in Chicago. The reality is that most of the gun violence is isolated to certain areas and Chicago is a big place....the US is even bigger.

    And it's not like you're being invited to visit a high school

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (19 children)

    We have lost 1.5 million people to gun violence the last three decades. More than every US soldier in every war combined. To pussy foot around with this is pretty ridiculous.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (10 children)

    What proportion of those are people visiting for work or tourism?

    It's ridiculous to downplay in the sense of the domestic response. But in terms of risk in this context, it's not a factor.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Perception is more important than actual risk to most people. This is especially poignant considering you don't have to visit the US on vacation and can just go somewhere else.

    Let me ask you this, if you knew a nation was at war and losing about 50k citizens every year to said war would you want to visit? I think most sane people would say no.

    I am reminded of the UK citizen who just went to visit her father in Texas who shot her after explaining it would be okay for Trump to rape her because he has other daughters.

    I mean I am sorry, but the US is now worse than backwards Middle Eastern countries that are also statistically pretty damned safe. Doesn't mean people want to visit either though.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    The mind boggles that you understand this but want to encourage people to do the irrational thing instead of put the statistics in context. I get not trying to persuade people the US is safe to travel to (from the pov of gun violence) but why would you try to persuade them that it isn't???

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    I am not doing shit. The UK government and other European nations do this without me (warn travelers about the US). I was just pointing it out and the possible rationales even if statistically it is a non-issue.

    Preference and perception drive most people. Let's just examine the fact that lots of people refuse to fly even though it is safer than driving. Are they wrong from a statistical analysis, sure. Are you going to convince them with stats, probably not.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (6 children)

    You're trying to justify the perception. If you're not trying to, you're doing it by accident, so maybe that's something you can avoid.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Trying to justify perception and stating it exists are two different things. I can speak to both. It definitely exists and the reason it exists is due to verifiable information.

    Your statistical analysis cannot disprove perception because people are more likely to accept anecdotal evidence. That is just human nature.

    You can definitely fight back with anecdotal information yourself (ie: My relatives traveled to the US and has a splendid time with no problems) but trying to sway people with statistics is a non-starter for a lot of people.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    https://vger.to/lemmy.world/comment/22581151

    This comment gives the impression of trying to justify it.

    You absolutely can alter perception with evidence. It depends on your audience. Using statistics in a misleading way has the opposite effect.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    You are telling me you can absolutely alter people's belief with statistics!? Perhaps a few people who believe in this type of analysis.

    All your comments give me the Impression I am talking to a brick wall. Maybe it is a ESL thing or perhaps your profound lack of reading comprehension. Any insight?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    All your comments give me the Impression I am talking to a brick wall. Maybe it is a ESL thing or perhaps your profound lack of reading comprehension. Any insight?

    My insight is that you're a cunt.

    If you want to not talk to a brick wall try engaging properly, defending your position (or changing it) and not resorting to insults. Not on me though, I'm outta here.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    It's not downplaying it at all, I'm saying gun violence being a significant factor in choosing not to travel in the US is pretty ridiculous.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    Gun violence in the U$ is absolutely ridiculous. Not wanting to travel to a country that looses population to preventable issues like this is a no brainer.

    https://theconversation.com/us-gun-crime-why-tourists-are-being-warned-to-avoid-and-beware-205906

    Countries even warn their citizens like the US is some kind of violent third world nation. It would be embarrassing if the US gave a fuck, but they don't.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    As someone who grew up in one of the more dangerous cities in the US, you generally have to be making obviously risky decisions to get shot by most of the (legally or otherwise) gun carrying population. The biggest risk by far, and why I actually would not suggest people visit the US right now, is the government and ICE being totally out of control. They're more likely to shoot a tourist than a regular local

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Meh, I have seen someone shot over road rage and it wasn't even their fault. I have been robbed at gun point in Tri-cities in Eastern Washington, not exactly a big city. I know a women who got murdered by her husband for talking to another man.

    A lot of people die senselessly from guns in the US, but I get your point.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Absolutely not denying that it's a problem, just trying to provide context to the idea that everyone in the US will shoot you just for existing or that bullets are just constantly whizzing through the air at all hours.

    I've had guns pointed at me as well, and funnily enough, more have been from jumpy pigs than from regular people

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago

    Not everyone, but there is a strange mix of gangsters and rednecks that will absolutely kill you over nothing.

    I have had more people pull guns on me than officers and I would rather it be an officer any day over a road rager or a drug addict.

    Having said that, there is definitely something to the nervous with a tool officer pulling their gun out in fear that is very unsettling. Also, it is always your fault if an officer shoots, even when it is clearly not your fault. I really hate that.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Strong 1930s Germany vibes

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    [–] 107 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    As they should. Host it in a non-hostile country, it's quite simple.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    They used to host it in other places like europe and china, but i guess they scale it down after the decline of these sort of convention. It's near impossible to do it these day because they're not the only player in the room, and Steam have Next Fest

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago

    I've been to GDC. Definitely a blue haired leftist vibe with a lot of attendees. And also "I can't afford to be detained for months nor do I want to subject myself to that" vibe as well. So CBP being allowed access to their phones during immigration screening, where they have definitely written negative comments about the Trump admin is not something they're super excited about.

    Plus America also committed a genocide in Palestine and now is doing ww3. Idk. I think the networking parties will be less fun but we'll see.

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    [–] 30 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Feels a bit naïve to think that scrubbing one’s social media will do anything. I just wouldn’t go.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I agree. Even if they didn't randomly pick on people (which they totally do) they could still utilize Palantir or similar tech to get intel on you. deleting your posts does nothing in this day and age.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago

    Don't visit countries that are willing to entertain fascism

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