Checked my notifications to see this, I'm not even active in those communities.

The reason says ' Piefed Troll ' I'm not sure what that could be?

Can someone help me figure out why I was banned? I wasn't very active in the last week I can't imagine why I'd be banned, especially from these communities.

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[+] 55 points 8 months ago* (10 children)
  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    can confirm, i & a few other users got comments removed & banned from some communities for talking about how to spot genAI images etc

    most of the people in question were slrpnk.net users, so it makes sense why we'd be against something that's so electricity- and water-hungry while providing very little of use (meanwhile i'm fine with locally-hosted analytical AI that's doing stuff like analysing scans for cancer, for example)

    but weirdly, the bans all got labelled as stuff like "anti-AI neoliberal", even though neoliberals are totally fine with corporate-owned genAI being added needlessly to every service 🤷

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  • [+] -6 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    dbzer0 users call anyone who disagrees with them a liberal no matter what the issue is, because they're the followers of the One True Socialism

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Isn't the db0 instance anarchist not socialist?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    anarchism is also called libertarian socialism

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    And there's no such thing as an anarchocapitalist because it's an innate oxymoron.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    It is interesting to me that the modlog doesn't show who did action. Is that normal? I would have expected to see who the moderator was that performed the mod action, but honestly haven't been involved with moderating a website in basically 15 years, so I don't know what the accepted norms are these days...

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  • [–] 33 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    PTB. There have been some mods of the AI specific comms here on db0 that are more than a little ban happy, and who pre-emptively ban people for participating in anti-ai subs.

    That said, we also have a number of users that have come to this sub to whine when they refuse to block the AI subs for themselves and just downvote everything from them.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

    There's a huge amount of Brigadoon related to AI content. People downvote and stalk the communities instead of just blocking them. I think the heavy handedness is justified, and I've even been on the wrong side of it (getting banned for posting in fuck AI).

    I don't know why the autocorrect gave me that but I'm keeping it.

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  • [+] -10 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Here on MULTIVERSE we ban AI communities because we're a vegan instance, but I can understand someone feeling an ethical obligation to take a more active role in downvoting AI.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    we ban AI communities because we’re a vegan instance

    Is there some sort of natural enmity between vegans and AI enthusiasts I'm not aware of?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think it's something along the lines of:

    A lot of vegans are vegan for ethical reasons, i.e. animal products are cruel to animals and tend to harm the environment. So it makes sense they'd be against something so power-hungry which is also destroying the environment so we can have arrangements of pixels that look pretty I guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Would you ban a user who felt an obligation to take a more active role in downvoting vegan content?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Obviously, the losers against this would be highly transphobic and homophobic. It must be rough having to create an other handful of alts each time you want your "contributions" to have any upvotes.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Nothing wrong with a guy dressing like a girl, you loser. I know it confuses you when you get a boner but boys in skirts are actually a really cool and fun thing. This isn't the platform for your puritanical insecurities.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Message from Draconic who did the ban: "[The] ban was a mistake and will be removed."

    I'm locking the post now because it's attracting a lot of trolls.

    [Edited for clarity]

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You could ask Draconic_NEO directly. No idea how that will go but the good news is that if you don't participate in those communities, there's really no impact on your use of the site.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    @draconic_neo@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Care to help us figure out why I was banned from these communities?

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Some communities on Lemmy don't want any pushback, any at all.

    You can get banned for making benign comments on uncontroversial topics if the mod is in such a mood. That's Lemmy.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Atleast on Lemmy/PieFed we have communities like this we can call them out in, or use/create alternative communities on the same topic etc.

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    [–] 33 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Welcome to the fediverse

    Instead of one u/spez, we have several dozen mini spez here. Many instance owners will instance ban users just for one comment where you forget or don’t want to place an /s after your comment.

    Many of these people are young, inexperienced and have therefore no true insight in the power they wield, not of the consequences this type of behaviour has on the overall success chances of a platform that struggles to get 6 digit monthly active users.

    But the most interesting part of this is that these type of comments/ criticisms are downvoted by an army of users who apparently don’t mind totalitarianism in a digital space.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    But the most interesting part of this is that these type of comments/ criticisms are downvoted by an army of users who apparently don’t mind totalitarianism in a digital space.

    I feel that's a bit much. If you feel like you got banned and silenced, nothing stops you from:

    • Not interacting with them
    • Not being on their instance
    • Blocking the mods/admins
    • Spinning up your own instance with better rules

    Mods can be weird, but it's not totalitarianism. The term uses to describe Hitler and Stalin isn't when you get a comment removed on the internet. Unless you're terminally online and think your comment removed on a niche internet forum is on par with the SS bursting into your home on suspicion that you're Jewish.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    I think the mod might have jumped the gun a bit too fast on that. But I don't know the full story nor am I in the mood to go digging.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    I would like to point out that the troll accounts being made to spam Draconic's name, especially after banning someone, is probably part of the reason why moderation is strict.

    Draconic in the last month has had several users mass harass them, for either not supporting Israel or saying they don't mind what users do on their private computers.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Banning people for posts they make in an entirely different community should be wrong. But sadly there’s no good way to enforce that.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    dbzer0 is a pro-AI instance (not corporate AI like ChatGPT or Grok), maybe that's why?

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I'm not against AI, I use it a lot and it is useful, you just need to know what to use it for and to not trust it with anything serious.

    But it's not all positive AI is bad in many ways for me the privacy risks are huge and something people should worry about.

    Wild to ban me for saying something bad about AI

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This was a mod-ban btw, so you seem to have annoyed the mod who's moderating all those comms.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Would like to at least know what I did to annoy them this much.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Generally they don't ban for anti-ai sentiment, unless you're going to the AI comms and being a dick or downvoting everything in them instead of just blocking them.

    My account is on the instance and I'm semi active in a few specifically anti-ai comms, and I've never had any problems.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Yep, they only ban users who cause issues within the community. Most of the ban logs say that they went into a community they don't like, started things, got banned. Then they get mad that no one wanted to clean up a mess.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Users should still be allowed to block communities after being banned from them.

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  • [+] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)