The whole internet is adult-by-default, so why are we doing any sort of age verification?
But please Discord, keep ruining the platform, cause an exodus.
The whole internet is adult-by-default, so why are we doing any sort of age verification?
But please Discord, keep ruining the platform, cause an exodus.
If they did it right they would grandfather older accounts And start with new(er) accounts. But we know that is not the goal.
Yeah my account is 9 years old, doesn't make sense unless I was 8 when I made the account.
Discord age-verification bot: "Your account is nine years old, and nine-year-olds are too young to use Discord. Terminating account."
You joke but I saw so many complaints when Facebook and Twitter started blocking 13 and younger from people who had ten year old accounts, created when they were under 13, getting banned, despite currently not being underaged. Because the verification was built terribly.
Cool.
The restrictions won't change what little I use it for, but it might piss off some of my friends who are deep in the discord rabbit hole.
Good. Maybe we can stop using a transient digital bathroom wall as a primary system of information distribution.
I wonder if they'll take into account that, had I signed up at (the youngest possible age of) 13, the age of my account would then make me 21. I suppose they can't really sell that inferred data...
The article says they may check metadata to verify users as well, so as far as I can tell, they will take that into account.
Did they edit the article or am I maybe just blind? I don't see metadata being mentioned anywhere in the article or in the original Discord announcement. I even did a ctrl+f on meta, and nothing came up.
Oh dang no this article didn't, the one from the Verge mentioned it: https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out
Sorry I read 2-3 articles about this and mixed up which ones mentioned what.
You could have lied then too and not been 13 at the time
Discord always felt way overbuilt to me for a text/voice chat and screen sharing app. Same problem with Teams and others; they aren't forums, stop trying to make them replace forums.
I can't wait for people to get back to IRC!
So what alternative to Discord are we switching to? I'm geniunely asking because my server is an 18+ Roleplay Server and members have been asking what we're moving to... And we don't really have an answer for them.
I've been encouraging everyone to add me on Telegram so we can keep in touch, but Telegram doesn't allow it in the ToS for you make 18+ Only Groups
Stoat (formerly revolt) would be my vote. It's basically an open source clone of Discord. It might not have every feature you want, but the basics are all there, and the UI is pretty much indistinguishable so even non-techie friends won't mind the switch.
Microsoft Teams
A 12 yo that I know scanned his face. It recognized it as an adult and now he can't talk with his friends, only adults...
I would love to have an alternative to which some of the communities I am currently in can migrate. Not easy to find anything that is like Discord.
Matrix is a possibility but its sometimes a bit of a hard sell to people.
yeah, was going to say I think Matrix is the reasonable alternative
Matrix is not going to catch on. It is too intense for the average person. My friend didn't want to bother with all the security features and couldn't sign in without issue constantly.
Matrix IS NOT user friendly nor is it for breakfast
I dont know if Stoat (ex Revolt) is as good but it seems to be the most direct competitor
I’ve been told to try Stoat a lot today, but the Discord news seems to have hugged their signup system to death.
I feel like a modern IRC client would cover it wouldn't it? What am I missing?
My friends tell me it's screen share that they want and why Mumble etc. won't cut it.
Screen share, specifically with low latency, is a huge feature thats really widely used. Everything from watching videos together, to playing RPGs via the shared screen, to coaching esports games. When I tried Matrix before (like a year ago) the multi-second latency on screen sharing was what made me give up on it.
Slack is basically the same thing as a platform
Slack needs payment to have group calls. Also it would be nice to move something open and ideally something self-hosted.
matrix maybe?
Matrix is no where near the level of discord, if all you need is a chat app than ya sure, simplex or Matrix work great. If you want feature parity... Definitely not either of those two, as they are just glorified sms/group text apps.
Well don't downvote the comment that answered your question. If you're looking for something that's exactly exactly exactly Z, then the answer will only ever be Z
You're getting downvoted because your answer was bad. Slack isn't "not exactly like discord", slack is not even remotely close to a replacement for discord unless you are only considering text based lobbies. Slack is built around enterprise IM as a paid service, discord is built around gaming voice chat as a free service.
If someone says that they want to replace their Tesla and you offer a golf cart to them while saying, "they're both electric, so same difference", don't be surprised by others finding that unhelpful.
Believe it or not. I did not downvote you. Seems crazy but there are other people here and promoting Slack seems to be a not so popular opinion.
Slack requires payment for messages to persist over 90 days. We used to use Slack for an organization I'm part of. We moved to Discord when that was introduced which is kinda funny.
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I only even use it because I have networks that refuse to see the writing on the wall. Maybe this will finally give them the kick they need to try matrix? Probably not...
There definitely needs to be a social pressure to drop discord, I propose that there needs to be some level of social stigma around using or liking discord. Like for example if someone says they prefer discord or like its look and features and promote people to verify or even buy Discord Nitro, call them a discord bro or similar negative quip (we can find the names and phrases in due time). If that sounds too harsh consider that if someone said they like to use chatGPT and prefer to use it, a lot of people would call them AI bros for that. It isn't much different. Social stigma is a powerful motive. Especially for creators and for platforms where PR is of utmost importance.
Like if Discord usage is stigmatized we can go from discord API logins on community sites and projects to them never even acknowledging discord exists. That's what will drive change, not inconvenience, not privacy violations by discord, or even good intentions on their part. Shame that loses people's respect for them.
This is for one reason one reason only. So dear leader can find out where you live if you say something unkind about him.
If i just use it for messaging and nothing 18+ (didnt know discord even had that side), im assuming i dont need to upload my government documents?
Personally I'm fine with the restrictions. I'm not in any age restricted servers and I don't use the Stage feature. I already have pms restricted to mutual servers. If they want to "assume I'm 13" let them. If I can get on voice with my D&D group idgaf.
No I'm not trusting them with my info, or RL identity, but it sounds like they're not booting people off the service for not providing it.
Fine by me.
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