Starmer lost his chief of staff on Sunday and is rapidly shedding support from Labour legislators after revelations about the relationship between former British ambassador to Washington Peter Mandelson and the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Starmer is due to address Labour lawmakers behind closed doors later Monday in an attempt to rebuild some of his shattered authority.

The political storm stems from Starmer’s decision in 2024 to appoint Mandelson to Britain’s most important diplomatic post, despite knowing he had ties to Epstein.

Starmer fired Mandelson in September after emails were published showing that he maintained a friendship with Epstein after the late financier’s 2008 conviction for sex offenses involving a minor. Critics say Starmer should have known better than to appoint Mandelson, 72, a contentious figure whose career has been studded with scandals over money or ethics.

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[–] 19 points 9 months ago (15 children)

This isn't really about Epstein, at least not the trafficking part of Epstein.

It's a separate but intertwined issue of appointing someone to the most visible ambassadorship who had been removed from government roles in disgrace on multiple occasions and had known ties to a convicted criminal. In no world is that a good choice, and it led to national secrets being leaked.

He appointed a traitor whilst having sufficient reason to doubt him.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (14 children)

    He appointed someone who he knew was already in the Trumps inner-paedo circle in order to potentially guarantee a better UK/US trade deal. It backfired, and the insider-trading treason (which, let's be honest, all politicians and their mates do) cemented his fate in the eyes of public/media.

    If the conservatives did this, it would be business as usual.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    That's certainly the implication, but I don't see how you prove that.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I'm somewhat surprised proof is needed. Corbyn was ousted on far less

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Corbyn was ousted because he won't play the game. For better or worse you can't change the world by been a stick in the mud. Corbyn may be a good man (which itself is debatable) but he was a useless politician.

    I would be happy to see the back of Starmer for reasons other than this. He's been Blair 2.0 which isn't something anyone was asking for.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Corbyn got the boot because he led the party to its worst electoral defeat in 90 years, refused this reality and claimed “we won the argument”.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I agree with all of this except that "all politicians and their mates do" it.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    with the exception of Jez and Gordon maybe

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Not sure about that actually, I can just imagine it now

    "Jeremy, I'll give you this big marrow from my allotment and a packet of sunflower seeds if you help the poor"

    No man could resist that kind of temptation

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    He does have his weaknesses for manholes

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Starmer only sees rampant criminality among pensioners protesting war crimes.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I can think of at least one country leader who should step down due to their involvement in the Epstein files, and it isn't Starmer.

    If Starmer stands down because of Mandelson's historical links to Epstein (the full extent of which is only now becoming apparent) it would be ridiculous. People with actual connections to Epstein are not standing down, so why should Starmer?

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