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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

All this is a path to a police state.

In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

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Fascist paramilitary invaders break into a home without any warrant and assault the occupants (San Antonio, TX, Feb 05, 2026) (cdn.social.linux.pizza)

submitted 9 months ago by CubitOom@infosec.pub to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Isn't this a legally the situation where you're allowed to just fill them with lead?

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[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yes, but since we brilliantly decided we were good with militarizing the police, expect for them to respond with a battalion's worth of goons that will absolutely mow down anything that moves without question. This is America.

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 9 months ago (1 child)

So you'd need to take them out before either of them manages to call help, then call cops yourself that armed and masked men attacked your home and are laying dead AND then hope those cops won't just shoot you up themselves

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 9 months ago

Which they obviously would, because they are all from the same pack.

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[–] BlueDemon@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 9 months ago

Isn't it the US that levelled a residential block for similar?

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[–] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Yes*

I don’t know about Texas in particular, but regardless you’re very unlikely to survive the experience if you do

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 5 points 9 months ago

In Texas? Only if you're white and conservative.

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 9 months ago

Yes, but this is also suicide.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

Sadly, no.

https://youtu.be/aJIuy2-jTaI

EDIT: Another useful but unrelated video from the same channel.

https://youtu.be/7H3UTmFsE6g

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

TL;DW: Only if the cops shoot at you first.

Which is correct - even in states with insane self defense laws, you're not allowed to kill someone just for breaking into your house.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

I thought in Florida you could shoot people in your yard, especially if they aren't wearing the correct skin color?

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[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I live in Florida and that is indeed the case. As long as you fear for your life. Just say the magic words after.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's the TL;DW of the second video.

The TL;DW of the first is that the ICE goons can walk into the house without a warrant.

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[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago

Land of the free.

Police can walk into your house without a warrant.

Police can sieze any property without a warrant (civil forfeiture)

Police can shoot your dog, or yourself, if they "feel threatened".

If, despite all they can do, the do something they can't, they get a few weeks of paid vacation.

Land of the free.

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[–] fratermus@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago

ICE goons can walk into the house without a warrant.

Americans will be on the path to reclaiming their country when the goons start to fear doing so.

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[–] sobchak@programming.dev 28 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Do we know these are ICE? Looks like the only indication is their gear saying "POLICE." Could be any police or anybody really?

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

I've seen a lot of them putting that on their jackets. They are trying to muddy the waters on purpose.

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[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why we let people this fragile be employed in enforcement is beyond me.

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[–] mrbeano@lemmy.zip 14 points 9 months ago

They are NOT sending their best

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

Homie, it's a feature of the police, not a bug. There's a saying: "the purpose of a system is what it does." This is why calls for 'reform' are futile. Only broken systems need repairing. This one is functioning as it was always intended to.

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[+] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 child)

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[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

You break into my home without a warrant this is going to happen:

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago*

Fuckin outlaw swagger, bringing the kid in as a bargaining chip.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Is it me or they don't have a fucking idea of what they are doing?

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

I mean technically the law allows you to shoot and kill people coming into your home if you fear for your life. They would have been justified in shooting these criminals breaking into their home.

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[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 9 months ago

And then what? 3 gestapo members just got shot, we better leave him alone

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[–] fum@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Fucking thugs

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Kavanaugh Stop and Kavanaugh entry in action.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

The opening scene of Inglorious Basterds.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

Careful, those phones look loaded! /s

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I've got a device that quickly solves these problems. Guaranteed that upon its use, the invader's behavior would be significantly modified from that point forward. In fact, many people in the US own this kind of device as well, and the right to operate these devices is enshrined in the constitution for this exact scenario! Maybe It's time for people to start exercising this right.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Didn’t save Alex Pretti.

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[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (5 children)

He didn't use his device

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

If he had, ICE would go away?

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's hard to say exactly what would have happened, but there absolutely would have been several effects. A lot of the bravado you see from these pigs is because they don't really fear any kind of consequence. Imagine the resources necessary to do what they are doing now, but for them to still feel safe in an atmosphere where armed resistance is likely.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Disagree. If one ICE gets shot, it’s cassis belli to be even more brutal. And the resistance loses the moral high ground. And the fence-sitters.

And it isn’t as if Alex shooting one or two would have saved him from the eight others.

Nothing gained, only lost.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 point 9 months ago

Brutality comes with consequences too.

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[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Well, Alex Pretti got shot either way. If he had taken a couple with him I would call that something gained.

I think a major point here is that these goons can act with impunity because most people haven't internalised yet that if you're being arrested or raided by them there's a high chance you'll be killed or disappeared to El Salvador. At some point, the best you can do is just to try to take a couple of them with you. Once people start treating interactions with them as the life threatening situations they are, they're going to have a lot harder of a time.

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[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Americans are, for the most part, brainwashed out of any sort of rebellious thought. Therefore, they won't defend themselves, they will film, screetch and seethe.

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[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Filming is somewhat effective at this stage. People need to know what is actually happening, as the country is really big. When the retaliatory violence starts, it will likely be after one of these videos shows a massacre.

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