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My poll numbers have never been hotter! (lemmy.world)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 48 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Putting Kim Jong Un in front like that is silly, North Korea holds such a small amount of power it's ridiculous.

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Absolutely absurd to think North Korea is a bigger threat than china and russia combined.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    In 2018 China seemed only a threat to Taiwan and Russia seemed only a threat to Georgia. But yeah, still crazy numbers. The really absurd thing is that there is not a single pandemic virus in the list.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I think a big part is NK postures like a threat, but often only meddles in its own affairs in the grand scheme of things. Russia is actively waging a war against Ukraine and China has been provoking trade wars and digital spying/manipulatation.

    I also think NK size and posturing actually makes the world more ready to deal with them than the other 2 countries. NK is a much smaller nation to monitor than russia or china and since it pretty much only plays hostile, everyone is already a little on edge with them whereas both russia and china want to play by the rules most of the time but can be risky to trust.

    However I'm just a guy on the internet and I certainly have a flawed view of these countries and the whole geopolitical situation so maybe NK actually deserves 30% in reality.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I think if they had polled experts instead of regular people the result would have been closer to your expectations. I wonder how much desinformation plays a role in these numbers, since China and Russia put much more effort in influencing foreign individuals. They are certainly more able to be a threat to world peace, both now and in 2018.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Pandemic viruses aren't world leaders, to be fair.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I assume that the percentages refer to the number of respondents that have voted for that world leader as the biggest threat, so these numbers don’t tell anything about the relative perceived threat amongst them. The only thing you can conclude is that more people ranked Kim Jong Un the highest than Jinping or Putin.

    This was in 2019 and if my memory serves me right, Kim Jong Un had been testing an intercontinental missile around that time and was threatening the world with nuclear weapons much more than usual. Putin had already annexed regions in Ukraine, but apparently more people found Kim Jong Un to be the highest threat to world peace with how things were developing back then. The full scale invasion started a few years later.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Maybe it's more to do with the fact that Kim Jong Un is considered less stable and could trigger a regional conflict by doing something silly. He's like nitro, whereas China is more like C4 : you would need to do something seriously outrageous to start a war.

    I guess instability was rated higher than actual power. And of course Trump being literally deranged, with the power of the US, well...

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    • [–] [M] 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

    Please provide an archive link to the poll on fox news. Everyone has an hour. Archive.is is a good one.

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  • [–] 54 points 9 months ago* (8 children)
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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    You can tell because it uses his old portrait rather than his current supervillain one.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    And, Kim Jong Un is higher on the list than Putin.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    To be fair, Kim Jong Un could easily an order, what he thinks is a limited response to South Korea fucking around, which they've been doing, which would lead to a somewhat automatic chain of events that could end all life on Earth in nuclear hellfire. And this all could happen in less than 30 minutes.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    And Putin could nuke Ukraine or invade Eastern Europe, leading to nuclear hellfire.

    Russia is without a doubt a bigger and more realistic threat compared to NK.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Putin could end the world, yes. But that would be a deliberate choice to end the world.

    And the scenario I hinted at does require Russian nukes, but it doesn't require a North Korean nuke to start things. A conventional missile on the wrong trajectory is more than enough.

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    • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Shocking Putin's actually that low really.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    This is more a poll on people's opinions than on reality. Although I do agree with Trump being top right now.

    People aren't really scared of Russia at the moment, they've kind of played their hand with Ukraine and although no one's really happy about the war, no one's seriously concerned it's going to spill over into anything else. Which is probably inaccurate, Putin seems like the sort to pick a fight that he knows he'll lose just out of spite. But it hasn't happened yet.

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    • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Rigged. No way the only FIFA peace prize winner would lose to all those non-FIFA-peace-prize-winners. And he is a 2nd hand nobel peace prize laureate.

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    [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    4788

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    • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    There is one prominent world leader conspicuously missing from that roster.

    Maybe it was a pre-set multiple choice.

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    [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Absolutely cursed blunt rotation right there

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    [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    C'mon.

    Trump Always Chickens Out!

    The guy who hid from protestors is not the guy who is going to pull the trigger.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You assume Trump is anything more than the Heritage Foundation's hand puppet. They'll switch hands to Vance once Trump stops being useful, and he's actually worse because he knows he's a puppet and is still doing it willingly.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Two things.

    First, do you think the Heritage Foundation is crazy enough to want a war?

    Second, Vance isn't Trump. He hasn't got what it takes to get the MAGats in line.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    1. If they can use it to invoke martial law, and then restructure things as they wish - absolutely. Few things are as profitable as war for those who can afford to sit back and watch, anyway.

    2. He doesn't need to - they're already there, and committed. Never mind HF is obviously intent upon leaving little left of the structure that allowed the US to even vaguely claim itself to be a democracy, so people liking Vance at that point is irrelevant.

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