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Federal agents use teargas on protesters outside ICE agents’ alleged Minneapolis hotel (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 3 points 9 months ago*

Minecraft tip of the day: You can make caltrops from every day items such as forks with some bolt cutters and a pair of vice grips.

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    [–] 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    The National Guard took up guarding the Whipple Federal Building two days ago and now DHS's foot soldiers have been freed up to attack protesters elsewhere.

    Giving out donuts and coffee sounds nice, but this operation isn't in any way about limiting DHS terror.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Walz is the one that called them up, so it isn't so ICE can attack elsewhere. Walz is trying to lower the temperature so protestors feel safe.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Ask yourself whether an external force protecting the federal building helps or hurts ICE. Walz, and political leaders in general, will always choose the "negative peace of the lack of conflict" over the "positive peace of the presence of justice". It may not be his intention to promote ICE, but when you provide defense for an aggressor it further enables their aggression.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Did you see Walz when he did the debates with Harris? That dude doesn't have that kind of mindset. He suuuuuucks at the political mumbo jumbo. He's trying to protect his people ffs.

    Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of greedy, asshole, mf's on both sides (99% of the right and probably 30% of the left). Walz? No way, he's not one of those guys.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Whether it is his intention or not, that is the impact. Politicians can be nice and still end up promoting injustice due to timidity or a bias toward finding solutions through slow and steady politics or court cases.

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    • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (32 children)

    Protesters should go outside ICE family homes, not hotels. Take the fight to their parents, siblings, and extended families. Make them shame their family into resigning from ICE.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Man, nothing ever seems to be good enough for you.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Lmfao, are you comfortable with the direction of the United States?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (14 children)

    My position isn't relevant right now, I'm just here to call out a defeatist troll.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    Sure it is. You say nothing is good enough for me. So I ask, is the country good enough for you? And if not, is it headed to the direction you want? And if not then clearly the amount of effort being put forth is not enough to change the trajectory and therefore it is not good enough for you either.

    But, I think you’re a maga. Because that’s the only reason you would complain about someone pointing out the trajectory.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (12 children)

    Oh I'm sorry, you've misunderstood - I wasn't speaking to you except in the most literal sense, my initial message was just to point out who you were and your pattern of troll behavior to anyone else reading this, so they didn't mistakenly try to engage with you in good faith / uninformed.

    I long since stopped thinking anything you said was done for any reason other than trolling, as has... well I assume most people on here, otherwise why would you say you have to make a new account every week.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    Just because a few people scream troll and you tag me doesn’t mean the tag is valid.

    So you’re saying that you support maga then?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Seems like if you're having to create a new account every week, it's more than just a few people.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    It’s also a tactic to avoid the fed who I’m told is coming for me. Lol. Yet I see no fed.

    Funny how you won’t confirm you’re against maga.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    I don't think the feds are particularly known for going after their supporters.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Are you suggesting that I am in favor of maga? A thing you yourself won’t deny?

    This isn’t an insult, because I know you know it’s not true lol

    Be better. Try harder. Be less maga.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    That wasn't an insult, that was just a statement.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    One that you know is not correct, lol.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (4 children)

    The feds aren't known for going after their supporters, especially this administration.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I guess that’s why you walk free.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh man, you actually went for the "No u"! God, I knew not taking the maga bait would get you eventually.

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  • [–] [S, M] 3 points 9 months ago* (12 children)

    This has been reported as you being a troll. This could actually be your opinion even though I doubt it. Since I'm on the fence, just know that my next step will be to remove your comment and then banning. This is just a warning for you to express why you're shitting on the protestors.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (11 children)

    It is my opinion that anyone who knows an ICE agent is a potential target to get them to quit.

    I am not a troll, I just have maga users reporting me… yeah, maga.

    I don’t shit on protesters. I encourage additional actions that change the trajectory of the country, because despite the effort the trajectory is still towards fascism.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    This is me personally talking, not as mod. I can't take that marking away to be a person.

    I downvoted you because it does seem trolling to say that the thing they're doing that is successful isn't good enough. We know it's working because they gassed them. You complaining about something working is very trollish behavior and I can see why it was reported.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    It’s not working. Getting them upset and getting people killed WITHOUT anything moving away from fascism is NOT WORKING.

    I’m allowed to have that opinion without being moderated and banned. I’m allowed to request more actions without being moderated or banned.

    It’s great that you and other people don’t agree with me…….. but that’s your opinion.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Of course I'm accepting that it's your opinion, or I would have taken some kind of mod action. What I'm saying is, the opinion you're expressing is exactly what a foreign paid troll would do. That's why I understand why it was reported as a troll. Have a great day, I think we're on the same page.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    No, it’s not. “Foreign trolls” do not say stand up and fight for your freedom.

    Saying “do more” and “you’re not doing enough” is not trolling.

    Unless you are like all the other maga loving lemmings and cannot see anything in between a picket sign and a gun.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago* (6 children)

    You are inching more towards troll territory. When people are adamant that others do more and "they" aren't doing enough, then yeah, it's exactly the same as foreign trolls. It's easy to criticize when you're not doing anything yourself. What are you doing so we can all decide if it's enough?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (5 children)

    I’m inching more towards you disliking me, not to trolling. Huge difference.

    You don’t care what I’m doing. You just want someone to yell at for not sharing your exact view.

    I yell at the wind, you all beat people down who want change.

    It’s like you all want this to happen.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Again, what are you doing?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    More than you honey. And you and I both know admitting to “terrorism” according to the maga regime is unwise. It would also be considered against the rules in many communities and instances. So I can only guess you’re bating me.

    What are you doing besides censoring anyone who asks for change?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    So, you don't protest, you do some kind of "terrorism" that you can't mention because I'm baiting you so I could ban you. Alrighty then.

    This is my last comment to you, and this part is as mod:

    If you're going to complain about the protestors in the future, explain what you have done differently and has worked or show articles of where it has worked in other places.

    This is really my own personal community that I made to keep track of politics. I run a pretty tight ship, so banning you and removing comments is not off the table. I don't care if you think I'm taking away your free speech, lol.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    I have no interest in obeying you. I can express an opinion without showing sources. A rule you don’t enforce for anyone else—as evidenced by uncensored comments that you agree with.

    So if you feel banning me is the solution, so be it. We both know that will silence me for about 5 minutes. You have no power over me. 💋

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